David, I don?t know? What do you make of this statement: ?It remains unclear why the fragments that were recovered of Saint Exupery?s P-38 showed no trace of combat.? If anthropologists find fragments of a skeleton, they could say ?there was no evidence of murder,? but they wouldn?t be that unscientific. If they found fragments of a Bison?s skeleton, they could say, ?there was no evidence that this bison was killed by a saber toothed tiger, but why would they? Combat ace Rippert, who is credited with 28 kills knew for years (if I understood what I read) he shot a P-38 down on the day St Exupery turned up missing. He knew where he did it but he didn?t know if it was St. Exupery. The articles were poorly written but this would make sense of them. They say Rippert just discovered that he had shot down St. Exupery. Something of St. Exupery?s was found where Rippert knew he shot down a plane. What I read strikes me more as a confession than some guy trying to get 15 minutes of fame at age 88. Seems like a war ace with 28 kills has already had his 15 minutes of fame. Shooting down St. Exupery is a bad thing not a good thing and Rippert treats it that way. The people who say it is unverifiable want to see bullet holes in the fragments that have been discovered. How many fragments were there? Were they the sort of fragments that would have been pierced by Rippert at the angle Rippert was at when he shot down the P-38 that may or may not have been St. Exupery? Why try to cast doubt on Rippert? What would be his motive for lying? I have encountered no theory as to why this 88 year old war ace would lie about killing someone he admired. Lawrence Helm San Jacinto From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Ritchie Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:13 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Saint Exupery On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:53 PM, Robert Paul wrote: I think Lawrence has given the argument to the best hypothesis. I find the suggestion that Saint Exupery was inattentive a plausible explanation. Accounts of air warfare make clear that a moment's inattention was enough to get a pilot killed. But what do you (plural) make of this, from Wikipedia's piece on Saint Exupery? Rippert's story is unverifiable, and has met with criticism from some German and French investigators. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Saint-Exup%C3%A9ry#cite_note-15> [16] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Saint-Exup%C3%A9ry#cite_note-16> [17] It remains unclear why the fragments that were recovered of Saint Exupéry's P-38 showed no traces of combat. Low flying plane, avoiding attack, ploughs into the sea? David Ritchie, Portland, Oregon