Sunday, February 13, 2005, 6:25:03 PM, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote: Jac> In a message dated 2/13/2005 12:39:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Jac> judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Jac> thank you for the reference and the link, Robert Jac> ---- In Kantian parlance, it's all about whether motives are pure or not. I Jac> am reminded of Judith Baker's excellent essay in "Philosophical Grounds of Jac> Rationality: Intentions, Categories, Ends". Jac> A collaborator with H. P. Grice, Baker seems to be suggesting that one's Jac> motives (even the purer, altruistic ones) are still, 'impure' and 'cash out', as Jac> she puts it, in _desire_ (or 'interest'), rather than 'obligation' (to use Jac> Pritchard's terminology) Is she perhaps confusing motive (prior) with psychological state (effect)? If not, is what she's saying somewhat empty? -- I see what you mean but am not convinced that in the real world, it makes much difference but then some of the rationality lot make me a bit ratty, I may be displacing that on her. Jac> One is also reminded of J. O. Urmson's essay, "Saints and sinners", and the Jac> meta-ethical idea of supererogation. oh dear, something else to try to read! -- mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html