I still don't have Taylor's book, but in keeping with Omar's search for a definition, Luc Ferry and Alain Renaut have written a book that bears upon that, French Philosophy of the Sixties, An Essay on Antihumanism. They don't use the term "Self" or "Person." They use the term "subject." At the birth of Humanism, the Renaissance Man was subject and all the world was object. He believed he had few limits. But as time went on, especially in the twentieth century, man as subject has been diminished. He had become more and more an object. In their book they consider the main philosophers who have contributed to a diminishing of man as Subject. What follows is a vast oversimplification of their arguments, but it should provide a sufficient number of hints in that everyone already knows about these philosophers but hasn't necessarily tied them all together and drawn any conclusions about their anti-humanism.. Foucault describes malevolent social institutions that take away man's freedom: prison and asylums. Freud and Lacan describe a powerful subconscious that has a will of its own and can act without our knowledge and despite our intentions. Marx and Bourdieu describe powerful Social Forces that whisk us along deterministically despite our will. Heidegger and Derrida argue that we don't know what we think we know. Our understanding of almost everything has been faulty. Ferry and Renault argue that these philosophers make man the object of social institutions and forces, the subconscious, and the traps of language that we have fallen victim to. I shall be interested in learning whether Taylor takes these philosophical restrictions of self into consideration. Lawrence