All human cultures have an ‘origin-myth’. Famously the Bible begins with the official version of Creation - setting the bar high for future builders, God gets the universe up and running in a working week with Sunday off. All these myths only push the story so far. Probably for good reason – for the child’s equivalent of an ‘origin-myth’ begins with “Where did I come from, mummy?” and the official ‘origin-myth’ may only go as far as “You came from mummy’s tummy.” For, pushing further, “How did I get in your tummy, mummy?” is like “What was God doing before He made the universe?” Only worse. Much, much worse. Though not au fait with the all-pervasiveness of ‘origin-myths’ in human culture and still only three, Rudy has been in pursuit of his own ‘origin-myth’, off and on, for several years now. Recently Rudy reached “How-did-I-get-in-your-tummy-mummy?”-stage. Mummy has always noticed an amazing object or urgent task that has so far interrupted the answer. Pushing further in another direction, Rudy has inquired how he got out of mummy’s tummy (which he’s noticed appears sealed). Mummy has explained that she pushed him out. “How did you push me out?” Like you push anything out. “Like a poo?” Not like a…well, may be like a… “Where did you push me out?” From my tummy, silly… At this point Rudy lifts mummy’s shirt to examine her tummy and adopts a facial expression that shows it is mummy who is being silly – as a simple visual check shows there is nowhere for Rudy to be pushed out. Unless (Rudy points): “Did I come out from your belly button?” No, you didn’t. “Mummy, did I really come from your tummy?” Yes, of course… “But did I?” repeats Rudy with a worldly-wise tone. This isn’t going to go away. It doesn’t go away. Rudy’s researches are relentless. Mummy one day relents. Before she knows what she’s saying, she says “Mummy pushed you out of mummy’s Minnie, Rudy”. If mummy could do it, she would now suck Rudy backwards in time up her Minnie so he could not hear what she just said. Rudy knows what “Minnie” means. It is a term devised by his elder sister – one she has long used to part-explain key differences between them. Rudy goes silent. He does not laugh like this is a joke. He does not smile with pleasure at knowledge gained. He looks solemn. Rudy reaches into his language kit for what he thinks is an appropriate response – he alights on a phrase he has copied from adults admonishing him and which he now uses to admonishes others: “That’s not very nice, mummy.” The theological niceties of Rudy’s origins are abandoned. Rudy’s researches are not pursued further. In medieval times, Rudy and his mummy would have fields to till that would help them forget. But Rudy and his mummy live in post-Freudian times. Mummy thinks Rudy’s silence on the matter might mean Rudy now has a “complex”. A day after mummy has related this to Donal and her own mummy, Rudy is in the car with Donal and mummy’s mummy. This is yesterday. Rudy is singing to Hello, Goodbye, interspersed with comments about the passing world. Rudy sees some sheep in a distant field and comments: “Sheeps.” He then adds: “Those sheeps have babies in their tummies.” At this distance, this comment cannot possibly be based on empirical observation. It is possible that this comment reveals the cataclysmic psychic disturbance that Rudy now endures about “tummies” and “babies” – that “sheeps” operates as a means of “transference” for a disturbance that may now possibly cripple Rudy into adulthood and beyond. To check this, Donal asks a few questions. “Rudy…” “Yes.” “Rudy, you know about sheeps, but do you know where you come from?” As in standard therapeutic practice, this is an open question – giving Rudy ample scope to steer in whatever direction Rudy feels. It does not raise the possibly fearsome term “babies” or the possibly loathsome term “tummies”. It’s designed to create a port of calm before gently setting out to explore the high seas of Rudy’s psychic fury. Rudy looks surprised, perhaps slightly startled, at the question. His matter-of-fact answer explains. “I popped out of mummy’s Minnie.” Donal is stuck for words. He mumbles “Eh…that’s right.” Now warming to his theme, Rudy further clarifies – stating in a more considered tone: “I popped out…of my mummy’s Minnie.” Before Donal interjects, Rudy rushes ahead to a further clarification – now in a chirpy tone with the last words drawn out for emphasis: “I popped out of my… mummy’s …Minnie.” It turns out all this ‘myth of origin’ stuff is very straightforward, really. On Sunday, 4 May 2014, 12:52, "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: We were wondering about virtual impossibilities (Popper) and nonvirtual unnecessities (Grice) in the Oxonian curriculum, vis-à-vis, a claim by McEvoy: "I seriously think, due what we might call 'institutional bias', it would be virtually impossible to get a First Class degree in philosophy from Oxbridge by arguing as Popper would argue, even though Popper is a far greater philosopher than anyone who gains such a First Class degree." I proposed to track the issue methodically, and notice that while Popper did teach philosophy in Canterbury (New Zealand), in his London years he was chair to "Logic and Scientific Method", as I recall, for the LSEPS (London School of Economics and Political Science). On the other hand, there would be core Philosophy as understood in Oxford, covered by the two Ws: the Waynflete chair of metaphysical philosophy and the White chair of moral philosophy. I now search for 'philosophy of science' as practised in Oxford. The Faculty pages keep quite a complete record of faculty, visitors, etc., with descriptions of their research interests, and I was looking for someone who may display an interest in Popper. I come across with a more institutionally oriented page at: http://www.philosophy.ox.ac.uk/admissions/graduate/mst_in_philosophy_of_phys ics This is a course towards a MSt in Philosophy of Science and comprises what the programme refers to as a Philosophy of Science component It informs the potential candidate: "Philosophy of science concerns both scientific method and the philosophical examination of the nature and scope of scientific knowledge, as well as the content of specific sciences, principally physics, but also mathematics, neuroscience, evolutionary biology, and linguistics." It should be pointed out that Popper never actually taught "Philosophy of Science" but "Scientific Method" -- as part of his course "Logic and Scientific Method" and there IS a difference. A pedantic student might challenge Popper or might have challenged Popper back then: Popper: And then Carnap, in "Logical Syntax..." Student: Sir, excuse me, sir, but the course is on Scientific Method, not PHILOSOPHY of science as such, isn't it? That's what I enrolled for! I don't want no stinking philosophy! Popper: Excuse _me_!? The Oxonian page above continues: "As such it ["philosophy of science"] overlaps with metaphysics and epistemology, in which it has always played a central role, particularly in the early modern period, and in the history of analytic philosophy." The mention of "metaphysics" may be a nod to the Waynflete professor of metaphysical philosophy, with the attending implicature: "So it may do you good if you go and attend one lecture or two by the Waynflete, you know". The note ends with: "It [Philosophy of science] is taught with special emphasis on this context in philosophy." which may have Popperian implicatures: philosophy of science is what a PHILOSOPHER does. If he taught Scientific Method, this -- an examination of scientific method -- may NOT be what a philosopher does, necessarily. For example, many philosophers have criticised Kuhn for doing 'sociology of science', which, alas, he took as a compliment! The note concludes: "This subject [of philosophy of science'] is taught via (i) the undergraduate lecture courses in philosophy of science; (ii) individual supervisions; and (iii) a graduate class in philosophy of science, to be held regularly during the second term." And it is expected that Popper will be properly discussed. The other area that McEvoy was considering was Popper's work in the 'philosophy of mind'. Oddly, it's again a W that pops up in Oxford, with one mere Wilde readership in the philosophy of mind. But things have advanced since then... Then there's of course the whole field of the "History of Ideas", as per The Visiting Professorship in the History of Ideas ("made possible by the generous support of Francis Finlay," and which "takes place during Hilary Term and is hosted by Merton College"), to where Popper's work on the poverty of historicism may best belong. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html