[lit-ideas] Re: Rome in 389-386 B.C. -- seeking peace

  • From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:01:49 +0100 (BST)

Lawrence, you say


>>>>>>>>>>
Several European nations decided to back Saddam Hussein, one of
America's enemies, after the Cold War. They didn't actually join Saddam
in his battle against the U.S., but then neither did the Latins and
Hernici join the actual battle against Rome. But there was support, and
this support inspired Rome's and America's enemies to fight. They
thought that with the support they had been pledged, they could win.
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nothing like rewriting history.

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The United States supported Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War as a counterbalance 
to post-revolutionary Iran.
This support included several billion dollars worth of economic aid,
the sale of dual-use technology, non-U.S. origin weaponry, military
intelligence, Special Operations training, and direct involvement in
warfare against Iran.[3][4]
Support from the U.S. for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently
discussed in open session of the Senate and House of Representatives, 
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Saddam Hussein in the past was seen by U.S. intelligence services as a bulwark 
of anti-communism in the 1960s and 1970s.[
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U.S. DOCUMENTS SHOW EMBRACE OF SADDAM HUSSEIN 
                    IN EARLY 1980s

                    DESPITE CHEMICAL WEAPONS, EXTERNAL AGGRESSION, HUMAN RIGHTS 
                    ABUSES
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and many other (easily available) passages, many references, many sources.  
Quotations from the Congressional Record.  And so on.

you write

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
France might side with the Germans in World War II, but afterwards, De
Gaulle can come in and say that the Vichy French were illegitimate and
never represented France. He, De Gaulle, was therefore free to disallow
and take no responsibility for anything the Vichy government did
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De Gaulle left France (escaped to England) after leading a successful 
counterattack during the Fall of France, and briefly serving in the French 
Government prior to Petain -- who sought an armistice with Germany.  IOW he was 
never anything to do with Vichy France, he always opposed Vichy France.  Days 
after the Vichy Government was founded he broadcast from London calling on the 
French to resist the Nazis.  And he and others set up the Free French Forces.  
By 1944 he headed an effective government in exile.
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Etc..


Judy Evans, Cardiff

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--- On Mon, 25/10/10, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Rome in 389-386 B.C. -- seeking peace
To: "Lit-Ideas" <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 18:59

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Lawrence


      

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