Lawrence, you say >>>>>>>>>> Several European nations decided to back Saddam Hussein, one of America's enemies, after the Cold War. They didn't actually join Saddam in his battle against the U.S., but then neither did the Latins and Hernici join the actual battle against Rome. But there was support, and this support inspired Rome's and America's enemies to fight. They thought that with the support they had been pledged, they could win. <<<<<<<<<<<<< nothing like rewriting history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The United States supported Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War as a counterbalance to post-revolutionary Iran. This support included several billion dollars worth of economic aid, the sale of dual-use technology, non-U.S. origin weaponry, military intelligence, Special Operations training, and direct involvement in warfare against Iran.[3][4] Support from the U.S. for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open session of the Senate and House of Representatives, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saddam Hussein in the past was seen by U.S. intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism in the 1960s and 1970s.[ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. DOCUMENTS SHOW EMBRACE OF SADDAM HUSSEIN IN EARLY 1980s DESPITE CHEMICAL WEAPONS, EXTERNAL AGGRESSION, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES <<<<<<<<<<<<< and many other (easily available) passages, many references, many sources. Quotations from the Congressional Record. And so on. you write >>>>>>>>>>>>>> France might side with the Germans in World War II, but afterwards, De Gaulle can come in and say that the Vichy French were illegitimate and never represented France. He, De Gaulle, was therefore free to disallow and take no responsibility for anything the Vichy government did <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< De Gaulle left France (escaped to England) after leading a successful counterattack during the Fall of France, and briefly serving in the French Government prior to Petain -- who sought an armistice with Germany. IOW he was never anything to do with Vichy France, he always opposed Vichy France. Days after the Vichy Government was founded he broadcast from London calling on the French to resist the Nazis. And he and others set up the Free French Forces. By 1944 he headed an effective government in exile. <<<<<<<<<<<<< Etc.. Judy Evans, Cardiff . --- On Mon, 25/10/10, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Rome in 389-386 B.C. -- seeking peace To: "Lit-Ideas" <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 18:59 http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2010/10/rome-in-389-386-bc-seeking-peace.html Lawrence