[lit-ideas] Re: Right to Life, Right to Die

  • From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:29:28 +0000

I sent that in plain text but freelists still messed it up...

JE> =A3100 a week towards the costs.)

is of course pounds sterling 100 a week...

 JE> --=20

 is JE

 I suppose I could have messed it up (very early hay fever has hit me)
 but I think it's THEM

 Judy


Thursday, March 24, 2005, 11:25:23 PM, Judy Evans wrote:

JE> Thursday, March 24, 2005, 10:58:44 PM, Veronica Caley wrote:


VC>> On another related note, there was a recent case of an older gentlemen
VC>> whose wife was in a nursing home.  He had spent down their estate to ha=
JE> lf.
VC>> At that time he asked Medicaid to take over so that he would have money=
JE>  for
VC>> a decent existence.  The case ultimately went to the Supreme Court which
VC>> ruled that he had to spend all of it on the nursing care of his wife.  =
JE> So,
VC>> one gets very infirm and the other is pauperized.

JE> It's similar here: I could have ended up homeless.  Luckily the
JE> Cardiff Social Services people were prepared to set this house (it was
JE> my mother's) against costs without trying to recoup them so long as I
JE> lived here, and also promised me that whatever happened my mother
JE> could stay in the nursing home we chose. (And the Welsh Assembly paid
JE> =A3100 a week towards the costs.)  Still, it can be rough.

JE> There's an Ombudsman's ruling that will mean more people who have to
JE> go into nursing homes will get the fees paid by local councils (if
JE> they have to go there for medical reasons, then the fees should be
JE> paid), so things will get better.

VC>> I think most middle class people in this country who have saved all the=
JE> ir
VC>> lives to have a decent existence in their old age are not aware of how
VC>> close they are to being impoverished.  Sometimes I think the 'spend it =
JE> as
VC>> fast as you get it' crowd might have been psychic or just smarter.

JE> The people over the road gave (sold?!) their house to their children
JE> (but share it with them) and intend having less than the threshold
JE> amount so the state *has* to pay for them. I'm a bit risk averse (but
JE> also haven't much money...), ?


VC>>   Nursing
VC>> home insurance for people of our age is out of the question.  It's very
VC>> expensive, doesn't cover until after the first ninety days and I don't
VC>> trust them.  If the burden gets too big, they will declare bankruptcy.

JE> Ah.  It's expensive here but is apparently safer


JE> Some people here have used Dignitas. Living wills have common law
JE> force -- and I can't see any government going backwards on that -- but
JE> they and the case law don't cover every eventuality.


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