[lit-ideas] Re: Religion/Stated, was Vote Bush if...
- From: "Didier Agid" <dagid@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:31:09 +0200
There are only 2 countries where religion and State are officially
separeted, and where the separation is written in the Constitution : France
and... Turkey.
"God bless American" equivalent ("Dieu benisse la France") is unthinkable in
a presidential speech. Still, we are the Western country where citizens take
their religion less seriously. Sorry, I can't follow you this time...
Didier
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From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:10 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Religion/Stated, was Vote Bush if...
> I heard an interesting discussion yesterday on religion and the state.
The U.S. is a very religious country by Western standards. 60-70% of
Americans take their religion seriously. Something like 10% of Europeans
do. One of the reasons put forth is the fact that in Europe the state and
church are often connected. In the U.S. we have constitutional separation
of church and state. It was suggested that when institutions are
nationalized, interest is lost. Ironically, the very attempt by
fundamentalist Christians in this country through the Bush administration to
unite the Christian faith with the constitution may signal its demise as it
goes from a religious to a political institution. Indeed, the expression
(said by ???) that power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely was
said about the Catholic church.
>
> They didn't mention that in Iran the state and religion are connected. My
personal explanation is that the Muslim religion differs from Western
religions in that it is so much more authoritarian that it becomes life
itself, and therefore cannot be compared to the West.
>
>
> Andy Amago
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Oct 30, 2004 8:59 AM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Vote Bush if...
>
> You guys tell it to Theoria (Tom Hart et al) -- I'm afraid to. A hand
would
> likely come through my computer monitor and rip my head off. I keep
trying
> to figure out how to explain to my kids why all their Christian friends'
> parents are for Bush (or have I mentioned this already?). The Baptists
because
> he's an alleged Evangelical; the Catholics because of the stem cell and
right
> to life issues. <sigh>
>
> Julie Krueger
> trying not to despair
>
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