[lit-ideas] Re: Relapsed Already
- From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:52:50 +0100
This is an AP story.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4944094/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119463,00.html
And Robert got there before me...
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:42 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Relapsed Already
Sorry, I don't trust the NY Times. Where are the references? Who said this?
"U.S. officers"? Who are they? What did they say? What is the evidence?
Or at the other end, who in the Red Cross got this information? How reliable
was it? Etc etc.
Lawrence
-----Original Message-----
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ursula Stange
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:53 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Relapsed Already
"70 to 90 percent of the Iraq detentions in 2003 were ''mistakes,'' U.S.
officers once told the international Red Cross." (NYTimes)
...and this is your response? Lawrence, these people have sons and
daughters and mothers and fathers just like you and your friends and
nieghbours. Do they 'not bleed' in your weltanschauung?
Ursula
Lawrence Helm wrote:
> Mike, I suspect you are worried that Bush might come after you for
> Bush-bashing. Setting aside the question of whether he /ought /to come
> after you, I don't think he will. I think those innocent detainees
> have stories similar to the following:
>
> 1. No, I didn't even know it was a stinger missile. Ahmed just
> asked me to hold it while he went behind a sand dune to take a leak.
> 2. Honest, my wife is a real tiger and she saw this magazine, see,
> with this great big lawn, and do you have any idea how much
> liquid fertilizer it takes to grow a lawn on sand?
> 3. Yeah, maybe it sounded a little like I was plotting to blow up
> some tunnels, but I was just mad, see, cause I was asking my
> cousin Nasser directions and he was teasing me, see, just
> pretending stuff. I was /never /going to blow anything up. I
> don't even know how to blow anything up. Ask my cousin.
> 4. Well my donkey wandered off, see, and I was looking for him, and
> the next thing I know some rockets are exploding all around me,
> see; so I ran into this cave. I mean I thought I was going to
> get killed, and there was this cave right there so I ran in.
> What's wrong with that? And there were these guys already in
> there, but I didn't know them and they didn't know me. Now you
> tell me this was an Al Quaeda cave and they were Al Quaeda
> members, but I didn't know anything about that. I swear. I was
> just looking for my donkey.
>
> Do you know where your donkey is?
>
> Lawrence
>
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