-----Original Message----- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx Sent: Aug 31, 2004 10:33 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Recycling -- and Nature (according to Amago) =20 =20 In a previous post, Amago called 'plastic' synthetic (as opposed to =20 'artificial'). Now he refines Geary's analysis or search for a criterion of= =20 naturalness versus 'unnaturalness' -- the idea of recycling. =20 In a message dated 8/30/2004 9:04:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, =20 aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: To the extent that plastics cannot return into the environment, decompose= =20 and be reformed by nature into something else, they are in my opinion =20 unnatural. ---- Interesting. Recycling would be the criterion for 'naturalness'. Some quot= es=20 from the OED on this interesting word -- first used in 1926. Cheers, A.A. That's a good point. I had not seen recycling as a man-made naturaln= ess. In recycling we are to a certain extent decomposing and reforming a p= roduct. Still, nature is far superior because when nature recycles, the or= iginal is completely reformed into something else. A tree becomes top soil= for example. When humans recycle, plastic can become only another form of= plastic. Also, in nature *all* products eventually decompose and become s= omething entirely different, where only some plastic makes it to the recycl= ing centers to become another form of itself. I think recycled plastic is = not as desirable as original plastic, they way recycled paper is distinguis= hable by its brownish hue. =20 I don't remember calling plastic synthetic, since plastic per se doesn't ex= ist in nature. If it did and we found a way to create it, we would synthes= ize it, like my vitamin C example. Synthesized rubber is an example of a s= ynthetic. We haven't yet synthesized silk; we've come close with artificia= l nylon, but nylon is not silk. Plastic is in that sense artificial since = we're not synthesizing anything that already exists. To my knowledge plast= ic is unknown in nature. Regarding cord instead of chord, Amago is just keyboard challenged. I mean= , yeah, cord, brilliant use of the word if I say so myself. Marveling that nothing gets past JL, Andy Amago =20 recycle: to reuse (a material) in an industrial process; to return to a =20 previous stage of a cyclic process.=20 1926 [implied in recycling vbl. n.].=20 =20 1928 Jrnl. Inst. Petroleum Technologists XIV. 766=20 =20 It is economically more advantageous to stop cracking in the first cycle= =20 when coke formation begins and produce more gasoline by re-cycling those= =20 fractions which do not form great quantities of coke during cracking.=20 =20 1929 Proc. R. Soc. A. CXXIV. 43 It ought to be possible to obtain nearly= =20 the theoretically possible yield by returning to the reaction chamber or = =E2=80=98 recycling=E2=80=99 all the products formed except the gasoline.=20 =20 1945 H D SMYTH Gen. Acct. Devel. Atomic Energy Mil. Purposes ix. 100=20 =20 Any given sample of material is recycled many times.=20 =20 1958 Times 17 Oct. 5/1 It is envisaged that plutonium produced in the=20 working of the reactor will later be recycled through it.=20 =20 1964 N G CLARK Mod. Org. Chem. iv. 62 Using only a small volume of solven= t,=20 which is continually re~cycled, it is possible to carry out the equivalent= =20 of many hundreds of separate extractions.=20 =20 1972 Sci. Amer. Oct. 69/1 Their new process is the first closed-loop,=20 spray-etching system that electrolytically reverses the chemical reaction = of=20 etching. It continuously recycles cupric chloride and has reduced the cost= of=20 etching wiring boards by over 90%.=20 =20 1980 Times 7 Mar. 25/3 The uranium is recycled back to an enrichment plant= =20 to make new thermal-reactor fuel, and the plutonium is stored. 1960 Aeroplane XCIX. 521/2 It has systems which reduce all organic waste = to=20 a small amount of ash and recycle urine and waste water into drinkable=20 water.=20 =20 1967 Technology Week 23 Jan. 34/3 It would allow us to economically desal= t=20 sea and brackish water, recycle water from sewage.=20 =20 1971 Sci. Amer. May 95/1 (Advt.), You bring us the cans and we'll recycle= =20 them.=20 =20 1971 New Yorker 16 Oct. 33 What you ecology-minded ladies don't realize i= s=20 that before a bottle can be recycled it has to be emptied.=20 =20 1973 Guardian 22 Mar. 15/1 The Liberals of Kew..have been recycling paper,= =20 and have managed to scrape a regular =C2=A325 a month.=20 =20 1974 Listener 28 Feb. 278/1 Such a plant would recycle steel, aluminium,= =20 zinc, lead and copper from scrap.=20 =20 1979 China Now Mar./Apr. 31/3 The report covers all methods of recycling= =20 organic materials. 1965 G K WILLIAMS Econ. Geol. N.Z. i. 2/2 These [beds of sediment] are of= =20 considerable interest to economic geologists for through them much detrital= =20 gold was recycled within and beyond the primary gold-bearing areas.=20 =20 1970 Nature 17 Oct. 273/2 The annual discharge of dissolved sodium in rive= rs=20 is about 20 =C3=97 107 tons, of which 9 =C3=97 107 tons have been recycle= d from the=20 sea through the atmosphere.=20 =20 1971 I G GASS et al. Understanding Earth iii. 68/2 Much of the ocean will = be=20 recycled in the ocean-floor spreading process.=20 =20 1973 Sci. Amer. Apr. 61/1 Stars continually recycle their material throug= h=20 the interstellar medium. 1969 Guardian 12 May 1/5 (heading)=20 =20 Bankers find way to recycle hot money.=20 =20 1970 Nature 25 July 321/2 It is not possible to recycle the output of the= =20 secondary schools without there being some intermediate opportunity for=20 broadening the intellectual experience of the young men and women concerne= d.=20 =20 1973 Ibid. 2 Mar. 4/2 A further five [cases] may be the result of the viru= s=20 being recycled in swill.=20 =20 1973 Black Panther 4 Aug. 7/3 Those workers finding themselves without=20 jobs..are re-cycled back to their former jobs at the reduced wages.=20 =20 1974 Weekend Mag. (Montreal) 16 Mar. 2/2 The kids are appropriating the= =20 Fifties, proving once more that fads (like garbage) can be recycled.=20 =20 1974 Newsweek 7 Oct. 52/1 A new international banking system to recycle OP= EC=20 funds into loans to the poorer nations.=20 =20 1978 Washington Post 8 Aug. C4/5 Many juveniles, he adds, are repeat=20 offenders, =E2=80=98recycled=E2=80=99 through the system. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html