[lit-ideas] Re: Recycling -- and Nature (according to Amago)

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Subject: [lit-ideas] Recycling -- and Nature (according to Amago)

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In a previous post, Amago called 'plastic' synthetic (as opposed to =20
'artificial'). Now he refines Geary's analysis or search for a criterion of=
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naturalness versus 'unnaturalness' -- the idea of recycling.
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In a message dated 8/30/2004 9:04:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, =20
aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
To the  extent that plastics cannot return into the environment, decompose=
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and be  reformed by nature into something else, they are in my opinion =20
unnatural.

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Interesting. Recycling would be the criterion for 'naturalness'. Some  quot=
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from the OED on this interesting word -- first used in 1926.  Cheers,



A.A.  That's a good point.  I had not seen recycling as a man-made naturaln=
ess.  In recycling we are to a certain extent decomposing and reforming a p=
roduct.  Still, nature is far superior because when nature recycles, the or=
iginal is completely reformed into something else.  A tree becomes top soil=
 for example.  When humans recycle, plastic can become only another form of=
 plastic.  Also, in nature *all* products eventually decompose and become s=
omething entirely different, where only some plastic makes it to the recycl=
ing centers to become another form of itself.  I think recycled plastic is =
not as desirable as original plastic, they way recycled paper is distinguis=
hable by its brownish hue. =20

I don't remember calling plastic synthetic, since plastic per se doesn't ex=
ist in nature.  If it did and we found a way to create it, we would synthes=
ize it, like my vitamin C example.  Synthesized rubber is an example of a s=
ynthetic.  We haven't yet synthesized silk; we've come close with artificia=
l nylon, but nylon is not silk.  Plastic is in that sense artificial since =
we're not synthesizing anything that already exists.  To my knowledge plast=
ic is unknown in nature.

Regarding cord instead of chord, Amago is just keyboard challenged.  I mean=
, yeah, cord, brilliant use of the word if I say so myself.


Marveling that nothing gets past JL,
Andy Amago





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recycle: to reuse (a material) in an industrial process; to return to a =20
previous stage of a cyclic  process.=20

1926 [implied in  recycling vbl. n.].=20
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1928 Jrnl.  Inst. Petroleum Technologists XIV. 766=20
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It is economically  more advantageous to stop cracking in the first cycle=
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when coke formation begins  and produce more gasoline by re-cycling those=
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fractions which do not form great  quantities of coke during cracking.=20
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1929 Proc. R.  Soc. A. CXXIV. 43 It ought to be possible to  obtain nearly=
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the theoretically possible yield by returning to the reaction  chamber or =
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recycling=E2=80=99 all the products formed except the gasoline.=20
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1945 H D SMYTH Gen. Acct.  Devel. Atomic Energy Mil. Purposes ix. 100=20
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Any given sample of  material is recycled many times.=20
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1958 Times 17 Oct. 5/1 It is  envisaged that plutonium produced in the=20
working of the reactor will later be  recycled through it.=20
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1964 N G CLARK Mod. Org.  Chem. iv. 62 Using only a small volume of  solven=
t,=20
which is continually re~cycled, it is possible to carry out the  equivalent=
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of many hundreds of separate extractions.=20
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1972 Sci.  Amer. Oct. 69/1 Their new process is the first  closed-loop,=20
spray-etching system that electrolytically reverses the chemical  reaction =
of=20
etching. It continuously recycles cupric chloride and has reduced  the cost=
 of=20
etching wiring boards by over 90%.=20
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1980 Times 7 Mar. 25/3 The uranium is  recycled back to an enrichment plant=
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to make new thermal-reactor fuel, and the  plutonium is  stored.

1960  Aeroplane XCIX. 521/2 It has  systems which reduce all organic waste =
to=20
a small amount of ash and recycle  urine and waste water into drinkable=20
water.=20
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1967  Technology Week 23 Jan. 34/3 It  would allow us to economically desal=
t=20
sea and brackish water, recycle water from  sewage.=20
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1971 Sci.  Amer. May 95/1 (Advt.), You bring us the cans and  we'll recycle=
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them.=20
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1971 New  Yorker 16 Oct. 33 What you ecology-minded ladies  don't realize i=
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that before a bottle can be recycled it has to be emptied.=20
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1973 Guardian 22 Mar. 15/1 The  Liberals of Kew..have been recycling paper,=
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and have managed to scrape a regular  =C2=A325 a month.=20
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1974 Listener 28 Feb. 278/1 Such a  plant would recycle steel, aluminium,=
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zinc, lead and copper from scrap.=20
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1979 China  Now Mar./Apr. 31/3 The report covers all methods  of recycling=
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organic  materials.

1965 G K WILLIAMS  Econ. Geol.  N.Z. i. 2/2 These [beds of sediment] are of=
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considerable interest to economic geologists for through them much detrital=
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gold  was recycled within and beyond the primary gold-bearing areas.=20
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1970 Nature 17 Oct. 273/2 The annual  discharge of dissolved sodium in rive=
rs=20
is about 20 =C3=97 107 tons, of which 9 =C3=97  107 tons have  been recycle=
d from the=20
sea through the atmosphere.=20
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1971 I G GASS et al. Understanding Earth iii. 68/2  Much of the ocean will =
be=20
recycled in the ocean-floor spreading  process.=20
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1973 Sci.  Amer. Apr. 61/1 Stars continually recycle their  material throug=
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the interstellar  medium.

1969 Guardian 12 May 1/5 (heading)=20
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Bankers find way to  recycle hot money.=20
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1970 Nature 25 July 321/2 It is not  possible to recycle the output of the=
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secondary schools without there being some  intermediate opportunity for=20
broadening the intellectual experience of the young  men and women concerne=
d.=20
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1973 Ibid. 2 Mar. 4/2 A further five  [cases] may be the result of the viru=
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being recycled in swill.=20
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1973 Black  Panther 4 Aug. 7/3 Those workers finding  themselves without=20
jobs..are re-cycled back to their former jobs at the reduced  wages.=20
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1974 Weekend  Mag. (Montreal) 16 Mar. 2/2 The kids are  appropriating the=
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Fifties, proving once more that fads (like garbage) can be  recycled.=20
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1974 Newsweek 7 Oct. 52/1 A new  international banking system to recycle OP=
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funds into loans to the poorer  nations.=20
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1978  Washington Post 8 Aug.  C4/5 Many juveniles, he adds, are repeat=20
offenders, =E2=80=98recycled=E2=80=99 through  the system.






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