I posted a message to the List, and got this -- please note as there seems to be a major problem somewhere in the system. (My list post is here, below, but I am reposting it.) Judy Evans, Cardiff (UK) judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "FreeLists Mailing List Manager" <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:33 PM Subject: Ecartis command results: No commands found > Your post appears to contain a valid Ecartis command as the > subject, or one of the first few lines. The post has > been forwarded to the list administrator in case it > is a real post. If you were trying to issue a command > send it to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx instead. > > Matched pattern: ^.* unsub .*$ > > -- Original message -- > From judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mon Mar 15 13:33:43 2004 > Return-Path: <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > X-Original-To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Delivered-To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Received: from zinc.btinternet.com (zinc.btinternet.com [194.73.73.148]) > by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF2A9390910 > for <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:33:42 -0500 (EST) > Received: from [80.46.162.217] (helo=home59gn6d10gp) > by zinc.btinternet.com with asmtp (Exim 3.22 #25) > id 1B2wzj-00036C-00 > for lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:39:23 +0000 > Message-ID: <027b01c40abd$76efa4d0$d9a22e50@home59gn6d10gp> > From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > References: <d8.5ac6835.2d8570df@xxxxxxx> <00ac01c409eb$d2840b10$6401a8c0@andreaswy9fp0b> <007401c40a0b$e21aed30$26b92b50@home59gn6d10gp> <02b101c40a2d$1d545a50$6401a8c0@andreaswy9fp0b> <00f001c40a30$5463a160$b3bc2e50@home59gn6d10gp> <03fb01c40a53$95e1c0e0$6401a8c0@andreaswy9fp0b> > Subject: Re: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe's September 11 ? > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:43:49 -0000 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > Thank you, Andreas. (I replied before reading this, overcome by freelists' > sending me *6* copies of one post... (two to each address... -- punishment > for complaining about their failure to unsub me) > > > Rawnsley isn't offering an argument. He's just summarizing what is obvious > > There is an argument, it's simply very badly put. And -- as you will know > by the time you get this -- I thought your comment re the UK obvious. > > > Blair's deep worry that "this might be the day" is silly because Bush's > > office also puts out the same story. It's just propaganda, political spin. > > And yet you think Britain will be next in line. Is that OK if you say it, > not if Blair does? > > > Is it possible to negotiate with al Qaeda? But of course > > The man who "signed" Al Qaeda's admission of responsibility is unknown to > the Spanish police -- who have been ahead of ours when it comes to concern > about and investigations of "the Al Qaeda threat". Who if anyone directs Al > Qaeda? Is there more than one Al Qaeda? Can the Al Qaeda ideology admit of > a simple "tired of all the killing" that brought the IRA to the final (we > hope) conference table? (etc.) > > Opponents of the bombing of Afghanistan and the War on Iraq can still ask > these questions; I do. > > > It's awful to say this: Al Qaeda will attack the UK. > > that's terribly *obvious*, Omar. It would be *obvious* even if our Govt > hadn't ringed Heathrow with tanks, ringed Parliament with breeze blocks, > introduced even greater security on airlines, and issued warnings -- which > I expect to be more forcefully issued soon -- re packages left unattended in > public places. It may be particularly *obvious* to me given that I've sat > in a pub and heard a bomb go off nearby, travelled on tubes that did not > stop at my station (bomb alert there), had to joini in an evacuation of a > train at Birmingham, etc. etc.. It's still *obvious*. But your saying it > does not help. > > Judy Evans, Cardiff (UK) > judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:05 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe's September 11 ? > > > > > What did you think of Rawnsley's argument, Andreas? > > > > Rawnsley isn't offering an argument. He's just summarizing what is > obvious. > > > > Blair's deep worry that "this might be the day" is silly because Bush's > > office also puts out the same story. It's just propaganda, political spin. > > > > Is it possible to negotiate with al Qaeda? But of course. Bush has very > > close ties, both personal and business, to the bin Laden clan. His first > > major oil partner was Osama's brother. Bush's father, a previous president > > of the USA, works for the Carlyle Group, of which the bin Ladens are major > > investors and business partners. No doubt when Blair is thrown out of > > office, he too will go to work for the bin Ladens. > > > > Impossible? John Major, the previous British PM, works for the bin Ladens. > > > > It's awful to say this: Al Qaeda will attack the UK. They just showed they > > can organize can carry out large-scale coordinated attacks across > > international borders despite the massive efforts of US intelligence > > services. > > > > It's going to be a long summer. > > > > yrs, > > andreas > > www.andreas.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html