Popper, 1902-1994. Grice, 1913-1988. We are considering Popper's motivations in his trialism (as opposed to Cartesian dualism and Smartian monism), and the other keyword was "rationality" In a message dated 2/8/2015 3:35:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: "Perhaps we should distinguish major and minor points, as it were, and here ask the question in relation to major points (errors on minor points being of secondary importance to errors on major ones)? The answer is yes: one acknowledged major error is Popper's proposed definition of 'verisimiltude', which was independently shown to be be mistaken by Pavel Tichy and David Miller (the latter Popper's research assistant for many years)." Thanks. I was thinking of Popper ever acknowledging that his trialism was mistaken, but surely his mistaken view of verisimilitude falls on some of those worlds! I have to say that Short/Lewis's definition ("A Latin Dictionary") is not of much Popperian help! vērĭsĭmĭlis, vērĭsĭmĭlĭter, and vērĭsĭmĭlĭtūdo, more correctly written separately, vērī sĭmĭlis, etc., v. under verus and similis, etc. McEvoy goes on: Another major example arises in connection with another part of JLS' post [...] I think Popper did indeed relish the problem-generating nature of the theory that (in addition to W1 and W2) there is a W3. But this is not so "odd" when seen against a very important strand of Popper's theory of knowledge, which might be described loosely as follows. There is a kind of position that says for every genuine problem there is a solution [on one interpretation, we might extract this view from W in the Tractatus - "The riddle does not exist"; or Hume, in the mode in which he was a forerunner of Logical Positivism]." I think this was best dealt with by philosopher Rush Rhees, in his "Unanswerable questions", which motivated Geary. Geary thinks that there are not unanswerable questions. "Only unquestionable answers" -- and that, "only mabbe". (For the record, Rhees, who taught at Swansea, was born at Rochester, New York -- only he would say "in Rochester" -- He thought that 'at' IMPLICATES town or village, while 'in' ENTAILS city). (Rhees's essay is collected in his book on Witters -- it is originally the second part to a symposium with Australian philosopher R. Bambrough). McEvoy goes on: "This position is refuted, we might say, by the existence of insoluble problems [though of course the refutation can always be evaded - either by maintaining that presently insoluble problems will nevertheless prove soluble or by maintaining an insoluble problem is never a genuine problem]. Against all this, Popper does think it likely that there are genuine problems that may be permanently insoluble, though we should not be dogmatic as to what they are - for even problems that now appear insoluble may in time be solved (as the history of ideas shows). But he also thinks problems typically have depth. So much so we may say that for every genuine solution (to a problem) there is a problem i.e. that even the most successful solutions typically create new problems - problems that arise in the light of the solution." This is interesting. Perhaps we should start generalising and popularising the use of the expression 'pseudo-solution'. We do hear philosophers (such as Witters) overemphasising the idea that some philosophical problems are pseudo-problems (i.e. not real problems, to use Austin's trouser word). But surely, if there are pseudo-problems, there should be pseudo-solutions. And there must be a reason (as there is, for everything) why Witters focused on pseudo-problems rather than on pseudo-solutions. McEvoy goes on: "Thus Popper's schema of problems and (tentative) solutions, which he applies to the growth of knowledge in all fields, does not lead to a point of finality but to further problems requiring further (tentative) solutions. There is a major error Popper made in his first work in relation to all this: he at first wrongly identified the limits of rationality with the limits of science i.e. took the position that only scientific problems could be resolved in a rational way, whereas metaphysical/non-scientific problems could not. This error was tied into some other errors, including the error of thinking rationality could not ultimately be rationally based because it always involved a prior non-rational commitment to rationality. This major error was admitted by Popper and its correction is important to understanding his mature philosophy. He does continue to accept that metaphysical dispute is typically less amenable to rational solution than the problems of science, but contends that a more-or-less rational approach is possible even to metaphysical problems - and some would contend, on his behalf, that his own work exemplifies the rational approach to philosophical questions." Well, when Grandy and Warner thought of publishing this festschrift for Grice they contacted Oxford's Clarendon Press. The reply was: "We won't have a book with GRICE on the title. It wouldn't sell". So they came up with the idea of an acronym: P G R I C E i.e. philosophical grounds of rationality: intentions, categories, ends. I think the keyword here is self-entrenchment. Rationality is self-entrenched. Grice: "[A] psychological theory [of rationality] [such as the one] I envisage would be deficient as a theory to explain [rational] behaviour if it did not contain provision for interests in the ascription of psychological states otherwise than as tools for explaining and predicting [rational] behaviour, interests (for example) on the part of one creature to be able to ascribe these rather than those psychological states to another creature because of a concern for the other creature." "Within such a theory [of rationality] it should be possible to derive strong motivations on the part of the creatures subject to the theory against the abandonment of the central concepts of the theory [such as the idea of 'rationality'] (and so of the theory itself), motivations which the creatures would (or should) regard as justified." "Indeed, only from within the framework of such a theory [of rationality], I think, can matters of evaluation, and so, of the evaluation of [rational] modes of explanation, be raised at all." "If I conjecture aright, then, the entrenched system contains the materials needed to justify its own entrenchment." "Whereas," he goes on, "no rival system contains a basis for the justification of anything at all" ( Rational behaviour in argument, as Gaskins puts it (ps) is established as conformity with putative preestablished norms. [Grice's] theory [of rationality] "writes its own inference-ticket", which should be perhaps one that Popper might buy. Cheers, Speranza References: Burdens of Proof in Modern Discourse https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0300063067 - Traduci questa pagina Richard H. Gaskins - 1995 - Law Grice even adds to Toulmin's nondialectical epistemology a matching theory of ... 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