[lit-ideas] Re: "Private Tommy Atkins" (Potter) from "A Gaiety Girl"

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:56:27 EST

Andreas: 
 
>Oddly enough, JL guessed at a word 
>that he probably doesn't know. "Battle  Rattle" 
>is the name for all the stuff that  soldiers carry 
>into combat: their gear,  weapons, supplies, etc. 
 
Thanks. You've got a long way, girl, since the gird of the loin (those oiled 
Spartakeias) 
 
>Maybe JL can tell us the etymology of the word. 
 
Well, I wasn't trying to be too original. And I don't see 
the collocation 'battle rattle' in an advanced with the OED.
 
One quote has both words, though, and it's a pre-Great War song by one J. L. 
-- Cuthbertson:
 
 
        A song with a rattle  that tells of the battle, 
               That tells of the knocks and the shocks of the  That
       Of kicks that slow-soaring go goalward,  and scoring 
               May settle the fortune and fate of the day. 

J. L. CUTHBERTSON 
                                            Carlton v. Geelong (1910) in 
                                                Barwon Ballads & School 
Verses (1912) 303 
 
Most of the info on "Tommy Atkins" I got from Morley  Sheridan's "Spread a 
little happiness: the first hundred years of the British  musical", and, more 
importantly (as it has photos of the original 1899 of the  number, as 
interpreted by Hayden Coffin), from Manderson and Mitchell (the gay  couple), 
"Musical 
Comedy" book -- with an excellent forward by Noel  Coward.
 
Cheers,

J. L. Speranza
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
 





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