[lit-ideas] Re: Popper and Grice on the philosophy of perception
- From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:05:17 +0000 (GMT)
Eh...apologies again for the repeat postings. As before: one 'send' - nothing;
two 'sends' - both turn up.
D
On Sunday, 19 January 2014, 15:02, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>Pritchard, who was so 'rude', they say, at the meeting (towards
Witters) 'died about a week later' of the meeting. Oddly, Grice also
acknowledges Wood in "Way of Words" (rather than "New Way
of Words" as Popper keeps using in his Intro to "Logic of Scientific
Discovery"), and deals directly with the "Cogito" in one
of
the historical papers in that collection.>
Small points, while drumming up something on
the 'Causal Theory of Perception' ['CTP']: that must have been quite some
meeting that Pritchard died of it a week later; Popper's "New Ways of
Words" is not an allusion to Grice's book [which came some decades after
Popper wrote afaik] but a phrase to echo the "New Way of Ideas"
brought in by Locke etc.
Meantime
thanks to JLS for the link to Grice’s paper which I hope soon to revisit.
DnlLdn
On Saturday, 18 January 2014, 14:22, "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
My reference to Grice having in mind Witters (or the neo-Wittgensteinians,
as I think he called them) when conceiving "Causal theory of perception"
may be expanded, tangentially, but with a view to having dates more or less
right! (or more or less righter than wronger) -- Monk acknowledges O. P.
Wood, of Christ Church, in "Witters": "To [O. P.] Wood ... I am grateful for
[his] recollection of the meeting of the
Jowett Society. ... The only
occasion on which [Witters] took part in a philosophical meeting at Oxford."
Wood, who is cited by Grice in "Some remarks about the senses", was
concerned with
Cogito ∴ Sum
(or 'sum because cogito', since Geary was discussing "because"
implicatures -- "because because").
Witters was meant to provide a reply to that. The Jowett is the type of
society that matters and counts at Oxford: also 'undergrad'. Witters provided
a rather clever example. He said:
"If a man [sexism there?] says to me [*], looking at the sky,
'I think it will rain; therefore, I exist,' I do not understand him.
* 'man', as used by Witters had no conversational implicature of sexism.
He called G. E. M. 'the old man' (cited by Monk).
One problem with the Jowett Society episode, as Dame [as she then
wasn't]
Mary Warnock remarked, was Pritchard's constant lack of tact. He kept
trying to lead Witters to actually ADDRESS the brilliant undergrad that O. P.
Wood was -- and who was the undergrad Secretary to the Society -- in his point
about the validity of the cogito. Dame [as she then wasn't] Mary Warnock
remarked about the meeting: "Practically [sic] every philosopher I'd ever
seen was there'. J. O. Urmson, etc. I would not be surprised if H. P. Grice
was also there. The meeting was at Magdalen, one of the most picturesque
('by far', a friend of mine says) of the Oxonian things. Pritchard, who was so
'rude', they say, at the meeting (towards Witters) 'died about a week
later' of the meeting. Oddly, Grice also acknowledges Wood in "Way of Words"
(rather than "New Way of Words" as Popper keeps using in his Intro to "Logic
of Scientific
Discovery"), and deals directly with the "Cogito" in one of
the historical papers in that collection.
I think ∴ I am
He thinks ∴ he is
I think that it will rain ∴ I am
Wood wrote an excellent essay on so-called "Linguistic Rules" (which we
assume don't exist -- _contra_ Witters) in the Aristotelian Society annals.
Speranza
---- 'Some like Witters, but Moore's MY man" (Austin, as overheard by H.
P. Grice).
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