Ritchie wonders about 'apple-shaped', 'pear-shaped', etc: >Isn't it odd there's so much soft fruit involved >here: pomegranate, kiwi, limey! Among persons, >hardness is all, I suppose. Right. And then, there's 'tangerine'. Oddly, 'tangerine' originally meant 'a native of Tangier' -- and it's only derivately used for the fruit. A case of reverse etymythology, or something like that (cf. 'argentine'). Cheers, JL --- From the OED 'tangerine'. [f. Tanger, Tangier + _-INE1_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/crossref?query_type=word&queryword=tangerine&edition=2e&first=1&max_to_sh ow=10&single=1&sort_type=alpha&xrefed=OED&xrefword=-ine&homonym_no=1) .] A. adj. Of or pertaining to, or native of Tangier, a seaport in Morocco, on the Strait of Gibraltar. Tangerine orange, a small flattened deep-coloured variety of orange orig. from Tangier, Citrus nobilis var. Tangeriana. 1710 ADDISON Tatler No. 250 3 An old Tangereen Captain with a Wooden Leg. 1841 TILLERY in Gard. Chron. 781 The Tangerine Orange.I beg to draw attention to the cultivation of this as a fruit for the dessert. 1882 Garden 18 Feb. 122/2 Two dishes of Tangerine Oranges. B. n. 1. A native of Tangier. 1860 All Year Round No. 71. 491 Winterfield was sold to a Tangarene. 2. Now with lower-case initial. a. A Tangerine orange: see A. 1842 Gard. Chron. 6 The Tangerine I suspect to be only a variety of it [the Mandarin Orange]. 1891 Daily News 26 Dec. 5/4 There is an unusually good supply of tangerines. 1908 R. W. CHAMBERS Firing Line vi, Please get me a few Please gthose blood-tangerines up there. b. A deep orange colour; also attrib. and Comb., as tangerine-coloured adj. 1899 Daily News 16 Sept. 7/3 Ruddy pink and tender amethyst, tangerine, orange, mist-grey [etc.]. 1904 Ibid. 6 Oct. 8/4 Taking as the colour key-note, the fashionable tangerine shade. 1977 M. KENYON Rapist iii. 31 Shovelling sugar into his tangerine-coloured tea. (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/entry_main/00246743?query_type=word&queryword=tangerine&edition=2e&first=1&max_to_show=10&single=1&sor t_type=alpha&case_id=dl0x-KCCgiQ-4226#top) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html