[lit-ideas] Re: Poetry x 2 = Sabbatical
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:43:14 -0400
That'll be the day when I read Hegel in Russian. I liked Leonardo di
Caprio in the movie Aviator. I did the owl quote quickly from memory.
Night is wrong; it's dusk. I stand corrected.
For Stan, I don't quite follow how if one is grounded in logic one can
still subscribe to a religion, any religion? To have a religion one needs
to believe in burning bushes that talk and God micromanaging life and all
the other stuff, no? Or where is the religion?
> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 10/15/2006 4:45:38 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Poetry x 2 = Sabbatical
>
> > I once heard Joseph Campbell give the direct translation into English
of the
> > German version of "The owl of Minerva flies at night" and it sounded
much more
> > Russian than English to me. More flourishy, less austere (although in
this
> > case I prefer the English).
>
> This must be the new Minerva Mark II with night vision goggles. There's
no doubt
> that, having spread its wings (taken flight) at dusk, the owl would have
kept
> going, but if Campbell's translation was 'The owl of Minerva flies at
night,'
> he missed something.
>
> 'Die Eule der Minerva beginnt erst mit der einbrechenden Dämmerung ihren
Flug.'
>
> This is at the end of the Preface to Hegel's Philosophy of Right. It
implies
> that philosophy cannot say how things will be but can only understand
events
> after they've revealed themselves. Something like that.
>
> 'The owl of Minerva first begins her flight with the onset of dusk.'
('The owl
> of Minerva begins first with the [falling of]dusk her flight.') The
translation
> in parentheses is nearly word for word--I'm not sure how to translate
> 'einbrechenden'--but it's barbarous English. If Joseph Campbell has a
different
> version, it would be interesting to see it; and to see a Russian
translation as
> well.
>
> 'When philosophy paints its grey on grey, then has a shape of life grown
old. By
> philosophy's grey on grey it cannot be rejuvenated but only understood.
The owl
> of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of the dusk.' [T. M.
Knox,
> (1952)]
>
> I don't know who T. M. Know is. Erin must.
>
> Robert Paul
> The Reed Institute
>
>
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