[lit-ideas] Platitudinous Plato
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:42:03 EST
Plato's Two Platitudes
-- one for each shoulder.
Choose below your favourite dialogue by Plato and expand on it. The man
(Plato) thought that the issues were serious enough (even if proved by Socrates
to be just 'platitudes'). The man had a sense of humour and relished having fun
at his own expense
Plato's Dialogues
I am slightly irritated when one reads the Norton Book of Classical
Literature and the ONLY philosopher we get is "Plato" yet lots of Thucydides
and
Herodotus.
I agree that Plato is the most poetical of philosophers, and since I
know more philosophy than I know Turtaios (and proud of it too), that' s one
of the reasons I have to go by labels like "classics", or worse, 'classical
studies'. "Classical literature" will revel on Sappho, but no Parmenides.
Anyway, as I was reading Diog. Laert. Life of Plato, I am reminded
of this systematics in Plato's _titling_ his things. It's almost always:
"Master X; or on ..." -- where 'master' refers to some youth or
other -- Let me revise them.
"Thrasubulos, who catalogued Plato's dialogues, uses
*two titles*
or -- title
-- subtitle
for each separate dialogue, taking the title from the name of the principal
speaker, and the subtitle from the topic.
Thus we have as per below. Comments by list-members as to their ideas on the
topics welcome. Not necessarily what Plato has to say about them!
Cheers,
J. L. S., B. A., A.
* "Euthyphron;
Or,
The Holy";
* "Criton;
Or,
Duty"
* "Phaido,
Or
the Soul [Psukhe]
* "Kratulos,
or
on Language" [this is the one that I have studied with most
detail. JLS]
[Onoma orthon]
* "Theaetetus,
or on
What is Known"
[episteme]
* "Parmenides,
or
Ideas.
[eideai]
* "Philebos,
or
Pleasure"
[hedone]
--->* "Phaidros,
or
Love"
[Eros] [to study]
* Alcibiades,
Or,
on Man" [Anthropos]
* Alcibiades Junior,
or on Praying to God
* Hipparkhos,
or
The Love of Gain"
* "Theages,
or
on Philosophy
* Kharmides,
or
Temperance [Sophrosyne]"
* "Lakhes,
or
Manly Courage [Andreia]"
* Lusis
on
Friendship [Philia]
* Euthudemos,
or
the Disputatious Man."
* Protagoras,
or
Sophismae,
* Gorgias,
or
Rhetoric
* "Meno,
or
Virtue [Arete]"
* "Hippias Senior,
or Beauty [Kallos]
* Hippias Junior,
or on the False [Apophasis]
* "Ion, or
poetry [Poesia]
* "Menexenus, or
on Death [Thanatos]
* "Clitophon, or
on Philosophy
* Timaeus, or
on Nature [Phusis]
* Critias, or
on moral [Ethos]
* Minos, or
on Law [Nomos]
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* Epinomis, or the Nocturnal Conversation, or the Philosopher,
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