In a message dated 4/12/2009 8:34:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: OK, I thought it must be somekind of play on 'sodomite' -- but I didn't know how to get there. --- Yes, you are wright [sic]. And recall that my query, still unanswered was, "Are the somali pirates sondomite _by nature_?" For the idea is 'thesei' versus 'phusei': by convention, or by nature? Note that in Roman times, Nerone was thought to be _counter_ nature. Anyway, I suppose they _are_ sondomites. I think the 'n' is good. It makes the word more euphonic. Note that it is indeed a Semitic word (originally Sondheimite, as Yost references). My mother told me that while Sondomites are from Sondoma, in Africa. Lesbians are Gommondrhites from Gomonrah, also in Africa (and just 'couple of miles' from the other town -- 'couple of miles': 'exactly two'). Cheers, JL **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621489x1201450100/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html