Eric is right. Most teachers couldn't do this fairly or evenly...or even. Maybe two generations down the road of your system...but I wouldn't hold my breath. Good teachers don't grow on trees. I know. I went to teacher's college. I have this ongoing conversation with my mother. She (80 yrs old) insists that they just don't teach ethics or morals in the schools anymore -- never mind courtesy. I tell her they do, but children see through that. They look at the world and figure out pretty quickly what's going on -- how things are really done. Teachers have to live what they teach or they are just mouthing the words. Most of them are happy just mouthing the words. Kohlberg's morality scale places most teachers at 4 out of 6. He was probably being generous. And, Eric, I like your concerto idea. Ursula, slouching towards five on Kohlberg's scale ----Original Message---- From: mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx Date: Feb 8, 2007 13:21 To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Physics and Philosophy Mike: There would be no grades, just evaluations from teachers whose main job would be to know the students and structure their individual lessons according to their needs. Eric: That's a lot to expect from teachers. ....... Ideal learning, in my simplistic view, would foster a *concerto* culture* where the instrumentalists support and harmonize with the soloists. I won't wait for it. Society overwhelmingly favors those who study for the test. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html