It's a local version of Italian which is probably derived from some coastal
Adriatic dialect and may have gotten corrupted in the meanwhile. Italian
used to be widely spoken in these parts, now not so much.
O.K.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Madonna candeora del inversno xemo for a maxe piove de stravento del
inverno xemo dentro
Yes omar your quasi Italian is better than mine
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*Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: Philosophy of the Weather (Was: Meteorologica)
The philosophy of weather is at least as developed in the Bay of Kotor as
in England. About April, the saying is "quattro Aprilante, quaranta
durante" (not sure if this is correct Italian, but this is the local
saying), meaning that, if it rains on April 4., it will last for 40 days.
But it didn't rain on April the fourth this year so it's difficult to make
a prediction, and we are left guessing about the weather like ordinary
mortals.
O.K.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for
DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"It's just atwix the ricks
beside the barn where Farmer sticks inside
The chicks he only hatch'd today."
D. Ritchie writes:
"Spring has a certain certainty about it." and "wondering how far from
absolute certainty a certain certainty might be."
Indeed. I was recently reading the libretto to Rossini's libretto. At one
point, Otello says:
"sicuro son io del suo delitto"
which strikes me as Ayerian. For Freddie Ayer (Sir Freddie Ayer, if you
mustn't), to know is to be certain, to be sure. But surely Otello was
'sure'
(secure) and 'certain', AND wrong.
Omar K. comments on Spring:
"This particular spring has been kind of slow to show its hand; right now
it's looking like rain, but I don't believe it. We will see."
The above is a lesson in linguistic botany, in terms of the philosophy of
the weather. Note the reference to the Moore paradox, "It looks like rain,
but I don't believe it". Note the use of "look like" which is
Wittgensteinian, and the application to Strawson who in "Introduction to
Logical Theory"
discusses the logical form of "It's raining" "what is it?", Sir Peter
asks.
(That's Strawson). On top, Omar concludes with 'we will see', implicating
factiveness. In other words, we'll see it, 'before you know it'.
The weather is an interesting topic for philosophical speculation. It's a
branch of conceptual analysis.
Spring has a certain certainty about it.
Sampson once tested some of his students at Lancaster with allegedly
analytic propositions. One was:
i. Spring follows Winter.
76.4% of his students regarded it as 'analytic', 35.4% as "a priori".
When Popper learned about it, he said, "Surely Sampson should spend his
time in other than definitional matters". His implicature was that "Spring
follows Winter" cannot be falsified (or verified for that matter). That's
Anthony Popper.
Cheers,
Speranza
Sowin's pretty good
Reapin' ain't so bad
Scarin' off the crows
Suits a Farmer's lad
But if you axes me
The thing that suits a fellow
Is a little bit of straw to suck
To keep your fancies mellow
When you're leanin' on the gate beside
The pond that lies beside the side
Of Farmer's stacks of new mown hay
It's just atwix the ricks
Beside the barn where Farmer sticks inside
The chicks he only hatch'd today
Leanin', leanin'
I'm champion down our way, they say
At leanin' on the gate beside the pond that lies beside
The side of Farmer's stacks of new mown hay
That he's been gleanin'
While I've been leanin' -- all day.
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