[lit-ideas] Re: Philosophy of the Weather (Was: Meteorologica)

  • From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 06:26:02 +0000 (UTC)

The weather is an interesting topic for philosophical speculation. It's a 
branch of conceptual analysis.>
If you believe either or both of these things, then, philosophically, you are
in the mire.
DnlWorking on a conceptual analysis of how late the buses are running so as to
make it an interesting topic for philosophical speculation.




On Monday, 13 April 2015, 7:01, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


The philosophy of weather is at least as developed in the Bay of Kotor as in
England. About April, the saying is "quattro Aprilante, quaranta durante" (not
sure if this is correct Italian, but this is the local saying), meaning that,
if it rains on April 4., it will last for 40 days. But it didn't rain on April
the fourth this year so it's difficult to make a prediction, and we are left
guessing about the weather like ordinary mortals.
O.K.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for DMARC
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"It's just atwix the ricks
beside the barn where Farmer sticks  inside
The chicks he only hatch'd today."

D. Ritchie writes:
"Spring has a certain certainty about it." and  "wondering how far from
absolute certainty a certain certainty might  be."

Indeed. I was recently reading the libretto to Rossini's libretto.  At one
point, Otello says:

"sicuro son io del suo delitto"

which strikes me as Ayerian. For Freddie Ayer (Sir Freddie Ayer, if you
mustn't), to know is to be certain, to be sure. But surely Otello was 'sure'
(secure) and 'certain', AND wrong.

Omar K. comments on Spring:

"This particular spring has been kind of slow to show its hand; right  now
it's looking like rain, but I don't believe it. We will see."

The above is a lesson in linguistic botany, in terms of the philosophy of
the weather. Note the reference to the Moore paradox, "It looks like rain,
but I  don't believe it". Note the use of "look like" which is
Wittgensteinian, and the  application to Strawson who in "Introduction to
Logical Theory"
discusses the  logical form of "It's raining" "what is it?", Sir Peter asks.
(That's Strawson).  On top, Omar concludes with 'we will see', implicating
factiveness. In other  words, we'll see it, 'before you know it'.

The weather is an interesting topic for philosophical speculation. It's a
branch of conceptual analysis.

Spring has a certain certainty about it.

Sampson once tested some of his students at Lancaster with allegedly
analytic propositions. One was:

i. Spring follows Winter.

76.4% of his students regarded it as 'analytic', 35.4% as "a priori".

When Popper learned about it, he said, "Surely Sampson should spend his
time in other than definitional matters". His implicature was that "Spring
follows Winter" cannot be falsified (or verified for that matter). That's
Anthony Popper.

Cheers,

Speranza


Sowin's pretty good
Reapin' ain't so bad
Scarin' off the  crows
Suits a Farmer's lad
But if you axes me
The thing that suits a  fellow
Is a little bit of straw to suck
To keep your fancies mellow
When you're leanin' on the gate beside
The pond that lies beside the  side
Of Farmer's stacks of new mown hay
It's just atwix the  ricks
Beside the barn where Farmer sticks inside
The chicks he only  hatch'd today
Leanin', leanin'
I'm champion down our way, they say
At  leanin' on the gate beside the pond that lies beside
The side of Farmer's  stacks of new mown hay
That he's been gleanin'
While I've been leanin' --  all day.



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