[lit-ideas] Re: Philosophy: A Very LONG Introduction
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:48:24 -0800 (PST)
I really think that it's time that AngloCanadians and FrancoCanadians divorce
from each other, or else shut up about their perpetual grievances. Otherwise
they might infect more tolerant and multicultural parts of the world like the
Balkans.
O.K.
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:30 AM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quoting Mike Geary <gearyservice@xxxxxxxxx>:
> " I don't know why I keep studying philosophy; I just keep
> encountering my own thoughts repeated over and over ...)"
>
> You and I both, Walter. Only it's in poetry that I keep encountering
> myself over and over again.
>
> Mike Geary
Yeah, it's a drag. Well, at least we're not doomed to repeat past errors in our
respective genres. (Or if we are, we're in really fine company.)
Walter O
P.S. Here's another one I thought of in 1972: "The limits of my language are
the
limits of my world." I kid thee not. It came to me at the library at Loyola
College under the statue of David while reading Georg Lukacs' *History and
class consciousness*. I later uttered these words to a charming young
French-Canadian lass at The Prague Pub on Drummond Street, Montreal, over
some very nice Beaujolais. In reply, her feline brown eyes gave me a
vacant stare, started to gather up her things and said impatiently: "Hey, you'd
better drink up, the game starts in a half-hour." (It sounds more categorical
in French.)
While watching the Habs destroy Boston, light dawned gradually over the whole
and I realized that our relationship would be a very temporary one, and a very
carefully circumscribed one. I cringe to think what would have happened had I
recited some Yevtushenko to her in the original. As Plato clearly understood,
poetry has such a more powerful influence over the soul than philosophy can
ever hope to attain.
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> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>wrote:
>
> >
> > Quoting Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > > Couldn't resist this one, even though I have no idea who the author of
> > the
> > > quote is, and I am not going to Google him at this late hour...
> > >
> > > "The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you"
> > >
> > > Neil deGrasse Tyson
> >
> >
> > Methinks Neil over-generalizes. From the perspectives of Kant's "public
> > reason"
> > and Habermas's Discourse Theory of Morality, that part of the universe
> > existing
> > (ek-sisting) in the human mode of being is indeed under such an obligation
> > (both moral and epistemic) when deliberating and judging in the public
> > sphere.
> >
> > Oh alright, let's also include them trees that are capable of
> propositional
> > knowledge, since it's such a festive time of the year. But not priests at
> > their
> > pulpits, and definitely no members of the Parti Quebecois.
> >
> > Walter O (who for the longest time while an undergraduate thought he had
> > coined
> > the phrase "The universe just naturally grows knowers of itself." Alas, a
> > grad
> > course on Hegel with Prof Harris at York U dashed my 24 yr old ego into
> > smithereens (sp?) I don't know why I keep studying philosophy; I just keep
> > encountering my own thoughts repeated over and over ...)
> >
> > Research Chair of Anachronistic Historiography
> >
> >
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> > >
> > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 8:05 PM, Donal McEvoy
> > > <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >Those who cannot remember past philosophical arguments and debates are
> > > doomed to repeat them.>
> > >
> > > Those who cannot repeat past philosophical arguments and debates are
> > doomed
> > > not to remember them.
> > >
> > > Dnl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday, 16 December 2013, 18:00, "cblists@xxxxxxxx" <cblists@xxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Those who cannot remember past philosophical arguments and debates are
> > doomed
> > > to repeat them.
> > >
> > > Chris Bruce,
> > > celebrating his (not my) 150th
> > > birthday with a corollary, in
> > > Kiel, Germany
> > >
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