Stalin's mother thought Stalin would be a great priest. Stalin even went to seminary. Not comparing Strauss to Stalin mind you, although from what I can see of Strauss's beliefs Strauss rather appreciated Machiavelli. All I'm saying is that family members are hardly the best judges of each other. None of what she says refutes that his was the foundation for neoconism, only that her daddy was a nice man and would never hurt anybody. A face only a mother could love, a philosophy only a daughter could love. Well, okay, a daughter and a lot of politicians Just finished watching a National Geographic show on global warming. 2 degrees is the tipping point. We're at .8. The most interesting thing they said is that the fossils fuels that we're burning today were nature's way of sequestering the tremendous CO2 that was in the air from the cretaceous period that extinguished life on earth at the time. Over millions of years nature took that CO2 and converted it to oil and coal. Now humans are digging up those carbon sinks, the oil and coal, and dumping it all back in the air again, and at an accelerated rate. I think that qualifies as post modern irony, don't you? Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Lawrence wrote I recently ran across a quote from Leo Strauss who described people who either missed or were unwilling to grapple with the main points of argument as becoming "confused by the 'blind scholastic pedantry' that exhausts itself and its audience in the 'clarification of meanings' so that it never meets the nonverbal issues." -------------- Of course, now I don't dare ask what 'the nonverbal issues' (of an argument) MEANS. 'Issues' that aren't mentioned in the argument? Argumentum ad baculum? The very best argument is one such that if you accept the premises but don't accept the conclusion you die. A pretty good argument is one such that if you accept the premises but not the conclusion you get very, very sick. Maybe that's what Strauss meant. For those interested in his daughter's impressions of Strauss, here's a link to a NY Times opinion piece by Jenny Strauss Clay, a professor of classics at the University of Virginia. -------------- Recent news articles have portrayed my father, Leo Strauss, as the mastermind behind the neoconservative ideologues who control United States foreign policy. He reaches out from his 30-year-old grave, we are told, to direct a ''cabal'' (a word with distinct anti-Semitic overtones) of Bush administration figures hoping to subject the American people to rule by a ruthless elite. I do not recognize the Leo Strauss presented in these articles. [continued at] http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E1D61639F934A35755C0A9659C8B63 Robert Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.