JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx wrote: > So, Robert, to beat a dead horse; did the officers have the power to use > excessive force? Did they have the right to use excessive force? I'm not sure why this question is directed at me. However (1) if they'd been convicted of using excessive force, obviously they would have had, at least in the eyes of the jury, the power, i.e., the ability to use it. (2) 'Excessive force' is by definition too much force, or unnecessary force, so one would have to conclude that in using it, the police were acting illegally. In that sense, the police never have the right to use excessive force, for it is, by definition, a crime. Robert Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html