[lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning
- From: Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:17:47 -0500
I thought Andreas was our chief of paranoia ...
Julie Krueger
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> Veronica,****
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> When did I use the word “cult”? Perhaps you are referring to the Google
> comments I paraphrased yesterday. I wouldn’t personally apply that term to
> Scientology. I like the definition a friend sent me: Ayn Rand with an
> attitude. J****
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> Lawrence****
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> *From:* lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Veronica Caley
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 8:08 AM
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> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning****
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> Lawrence,****
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> I was thinking of your use of the word, "cult." I don't think they like
> that. In our country, anyone can call his/her group a religion. And many
> do, for financial reasons. And anyone can call himself a reverend. I saw
> one of these guys on TV claiming that we are a "harlot" society. And who is
> the leader of this horrid society? None other than Oprah. I would laugh if
> I didn't find this whole thing so frightening. I am opposed to tax
> exemptions for religion. And faith based anything financed by taxes. ***
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> ****
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> I think maybe you will be OK Lawrence. Too many other law suits against
> ex-members exposes. In the meanwhile, let Robert take the load of your
> mind. I think he really is paranoid in chief. Or, maybe it's me. And keep
> the pictures coming.****
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> Veronica Caley****
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> Milford, MI****
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> ----- Original Message ----- ****
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> *From:* Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ****
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> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ****
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> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:05 PM****
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> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning****
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> Veronica,****
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> I haven’t called them anything on my SmugMug site. I recall mentioning
> them on my blog in regard to the fellow living under the bridge who said a
> “scientific organization” had bought up all the land around the river. I
> later ran across a newspaper article indicating that Scientology bought out
> the land adjacent to their golf course in order to enlarge it -- I can’t
> recall whether I mentioned that on my blog. Prior to that I may have
> mentioned them but I wouldn’t have said much because I didn’t know much –
> and wasn’t interested. ****
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> It wouldn’t be hard for them to find my blog site but I didn’t give it to
> Sal. I only have him my SmugMug site. ****
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> As to the comments made on Lit-Ideas . . . they couldn’t get those . . .
> could they? ****
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> Lawrence (whose paranoia hasn’t be alleviated by Veronica)****
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> *From:* lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Veronica Caley
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:27 PM
> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning****
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> Lawrence,****
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> Your paranoia is well placed. My family's experience with this group is
> not good. I have two brothers-in-law, or had, very hard to know. They ran
> away from home when they were 14 and 18. This was about 50 years ago and
> joined up. They have been heard from twice. Once when the older one called
> my mother-in-law to tell her he got married and could he borrow $300. She
> told him it was a wedding gift but she would like to meet his wife.****
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> About five years later, he called my husband and asked to borrow $75. They
> had, of course, joined this group when they ran to CA. They said they were
> recruiting in England, were in NY and did not have enough money to return to
> CA. My husband gave it to them, with my advice. It was worth it to me to
> see if they would ever give it back. This was around 1967/68. Of course
> they never gave it back. No one ever heard from them again. They broke my
> mother-in-law's heart. For decades.****
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> Notice that I refer to them as a "group." They like to sue people. They
> are paranoid, not you. But now that you called them another name than****
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> "group," I would start inquiring re a good lawyer. But it's too soon to
> hire one. See what happens when they look on your site.****
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> Veronica****
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> ----- Original Message ----- ****
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> *From:* Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ****
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> *To:* Lit-Ideas <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>****
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> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:18 PM****
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> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Paranoid with my Pentax in the morning****
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> I forget who is in charge of paranoia on Lit-Ideas. If the position is
> vacant, I will be applying for it. Here is how I spent my morning:****
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> I received a new lens for my Pentax K20d yesterday, a 28-300mm Sigma; so I
> drove to a spot at the river where I could check how well it did at longer
> ranges. I intended to go south of the river by the squash and watermelon
> fields, but workers were busily loading watermelons onto trucks so I decided
> to walk along the levy adjacent to “Golden Era Productions,” the Scientology
> property where some of the top people are purported to hang out. ****
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> A Scientology Security Guard wheeled up adjacent to me on the other side of
> the fence (in a dapper little uniform and on a brand new Yamaha motorcycle)
> and asked, in perhaps an Eastern-European accent, “Can I help you?”****
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> “Help me?” I responded. “What sort of help did you have in mind?”****
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> There was a bit of hemming and hawing, but in short he wanted to know why I
> was taking photos of Scientology property. I told him I was an “amateur
> photographer” and took no photos of people (in case that was what he was
> worried about) but of such things as trees, my dogs, and the light coming
> over the mountain. He questioned me about my dogs, where my Jeep was parked
> and what I did with my photos. I told him I had just set up a new internet
> site and he could go to it if the liked to see what sort of photos I posted
> there.****
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> Eventually he waved and drove off. We walked on a little further but soon
> turned back. The Security Guard caught up with us again, told me his name
> was Sal and he needed my phone number. “Why do you need that,” I asked?
> ****
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> “Our Public Affairs person wants to talk to you.”****
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> “About what?”****
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> “Well, you are taking photos of our property and posting them on the
> Internet. She wants to talk to you about it.”****
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> “Okay,” I said and gave him my cell number.****
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> “Do you have another number,” he asked?****
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> “Why?”****
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> “Do you have a business number?”****
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> “Nope. No business number. I’m retired. I was an Engineer at Boeing, and
> now in retirement I’ve taken up photography.”****
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> He wished me a nice day and drove off.****
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> So the girls and I walked on, but then I noticed a Four-Wheel Drive vehicle
> up ahead with a box on top, the sort of box the police use to flash lights
> at speeders to get them to pull over. This Security Vehicle drove slowly
> ahead of me for a while and then went on to park by the place where the dirt
> road I had to use went out onto Soboba Road. When I drove by him it looked
> as though he was taking down my license number.****
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> I had asked Sal the name of the Public Affairs person who would be calling
> me. He said it would be Muriel. When I got home I got on the internet to
> see what I could find out about Muriel and this location that I had been
> hiking near for years. Muriel, would seem to be Muriel Dufresne. This was
> the site that came up first:****
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> http://angrygaypope.com/gold/gold_base_people.htm****
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> The portion about Muriel reads as follows: MURIEL DUFRESNE – “Gold Base
> Public Relations. Been at her post a long time. She is the cult's local
> face and is on familiar terms with even the children of Riverside County
> Supervisors. She makes donations to local politicians in the cult's name,
> often changing her title on each donation. In 2009 donations to various
> Supers her title is listed variously as: Partner, Golden Era Productions,
> Producer, Golden Springs Productions, Public Relations Agent, Golden Era
> Productions. Riverside County has a terrible problem with corruption and,
> like the rest of America, has suffered from a crash in income. They need
> Muriel's "Green Grease" now more than ever! Thank goodness she can be
> counted on to dole out the cash. But watch out when she comes to demand a
> "favor." You don't get something for nothing. Her last name is pronounced
> ‘Doo-fran’.”****
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> Yes we do have all those problems in Riverside County; so if Muriel wanted
> to I’m sure she could get the police to tell her where I lived and even get
> them to lean on me a bit to keep me from taking photos of Scientology trees
> and bushes.****
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> I’ve always said that if the time ever came when I was prevented from
> hiking on the river, then I would want to move. Scientology doesn’t own the
> entire river as far as I know, but they do own some of it. ****
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> Muriel hasn’t called yet, but just in case, does anyone know any nice
> places I might move to, places like the ones in my photos where my girls can
> run off leash, places where no spiffy little security guards on Yamahas will
> ask if they can help me?****
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> Lawrence****
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