[lit-ideas] Re: Palma as such

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  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:35:32 -0400 (EDT)

Palma makes a point about avoiding 'otiosities' in conversation. He advises 
 us to "avoid the locution "as such" - it is purely bullshit thrown in to 
show  that one speaks with the literati. Consider," he says, "what is  
meaning as  such?" and contrast with "what is meaning?". Implicature: You see: 
no  
distinction. Only, perhaps a _fine_ or nice (literally nescius) Griceian  
distinction. He adds: "If anyone has a non trivial case to be made for the 
use  of 'as such' I am unable to fathom it."
 
In a message dated 4/30/2014 8:14:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx writes:
palma as such is the name of an Island in  Spain.
 
According to Short's and Lewis's Latin Dictionary, 'palma', as such, refers 
 to the palm of the hand. All other usages, are, as such, then, derivative 
-- or  'transferred' from the original etymon.
 
Cheers,
 
Speranza
 
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Short and Lewis state that the Romans started to use 'palma' as a  
transliteration of Greek παλάμη. Cognate with Sanscrit, "phal", to open. As  
such, 'palma' was used by the Romans to refer, first and foremost, to:

i. the palm of the hand.
 
There are at least fifteen transferred uses of 'palma' as such, i.e. the  
palm of the hand. 
 
ii. (pars pro toto.) the hand.
 
iii. the sole of a goose's foot (Plin. 10, 22, 27, § 52)
 
iv. the broad end or blade of an oar (Non. 151, 27). 
 
v. a palm-tree, a palm.  
 
vi. the FRUIT of the palm-tree, a date (poet.) (Ov. F. 1, 185) 
 
vii. a palm-branch, e. g. which was suspended in wine to make it  sweeter 
(Cato, R. R. 113).
 
viii. a broom made of palm-twigs (Hor. S. 2, 4, 83) 
 
ix. a palm-branch or palm-wreath, as a token of victory, dedicated to  
Jupiter.
 
x. a token or badge of victory, the palm or prize; and still more gen.,  
victory, honor, glory, pre-eminence.
 
xi. the topmost twig or branch of any tree (Liv. 33, 5, 10) 

xii. a branch on a tree (Plin. 17, 23, 35, § 202) 
 
xiii. the fruit of an Egyptian tree (Plin. 12, 22, 47, § 103)

xiv. an aromatic plant growing in Africa and Syria (Plin. 12, 28, 62, §  
134)
 
xv. a marine plant, Plin. 13, 25, 49, § 138.
 
Finally, the use that Palma takes as being 'as such' as such.

xvi. A town in the Balearic islands (Plin. 3, 5, 11, § 77). 





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