It might be why oil prices are going down. If we still had any influence in the world, it would be tempting to say that we're strong arming the Saudis to produce until the election, because if gasoline was right now at or near $5.00 a gallon, McCain wouldn't stand a chance. Or it could be just bizarre market behavior. And you don't have to worry about the economy getting better. It might get better on the surface but underneath there is still no foundation for it except debt and empty paper. Like they say, something that can't go on forever won't. Still, I'm willing to listen to someone making a case for building an economy on debt and empty paper. I continue to believe that the untimely interest rate cuts and the 'irrational exuberance' was engineered, but the way the economy just exploded to give Obama an advantage over McCain speaks to this financial thing having gotten away from the PTB. Richard Heinberg thinks the global casino as he calls it (i.e., wealth being produced from placing bets on stocks, on commodities, on for ex, hedge funds, in the absence of any real production) will be replaced some time in the early 21st century by a village flea market, where money will become valueless and people will be trading in real goods . It all sounds so catastrophic, certainly, but not without basis. Also, for Mike, I agree with Whitman. Animals face all sorts of things, but mercifully they don't have abstract reasoning so they can't worry about it before it happens. They don't worry about death, about someone stealing from them and on and on. One day, like everyone and everything, they just die and it's all over. Humans die too like everyone and everything, but they spend decades knowing they will get old and die. Animals also don't hate. Animals basically live in the moment, in the eternal present. The eternal present is the goal of meditation in fact, to stay out of the past (the unconscious) or the future (dread and foreboding, such as needing to enter a nursing home). Even when they they put their brains to use, humans develop weapons and destroy their drinking water and on and on. How is that in any way joyful? What is it about Sarah Palin that is about as unpresidential looking as it's possible to be? Hillary looked presidential. Angela Merkel looks the part. But Sarah looks like somebody's sister-in-law. Our national sister-in-law is our next president. Geez. At least maybe she can wear a moose shirt and polar bear hat. Why isn't McCain at least dressing her for the part? --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Opinion needed To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 7:05 PM Just pray that the economy doesn't improve before Nov. 4. : )