In response to my claiming that Heidegger goes to great lengths to maintain the distinction between the ontic and ontological, John McCreery wrote: "How would Heidegger answer the quesiton, 'So what?'" One answer would be that it is a use-less distinction in that it doesn't bring about any specific results. It only has a role for a particular kind of thinking, a kind that is not subject to instrumental reason and therefore is not subject to the demands of being productive or use-full. Another answer would be that the ontological difference, the difference between Being and beings, is critical in two related ways. First, it is crucial for any account of truth that moves beyond truth as correctness. Very little of what matters in the world can be accounted for in propositions and their relations. '2+2=4' is correct and therefore true but it also matters very little to us. However, as we reflect on ourselves, on our relations to other people, and our relations to the world, it no longer is possible to talk in terms of correctness and yet it is precisely at these times that truth matters the most. A river can be described according to volume of water and flow rate, but more importantly it can be described according to its beauty and how it nurtures human community. People can be described according to their roles and occupations, but more importantly they can be described according to their character and being a self in the world. This truth shows itself when we look past what is merely for the moment, to what is enduring and what makes possible that which is momentary and useful. To get at the truth of something is to not only account for what is correct but also what makes that thing what it is. This is not possible unless one distinguishes between beings and Being, between the ontic and the ontological. Second, the distinction between ontic and ontological is fundamental for thinking. "Nobody will deny that there is an interest in philosophy today. But - is there anything at all left today in which man does not take an interest, in the sense in which he understands 'interest'? Interest, _interesse_, means to be among and in the midst of things, or to be at the center of a thing and to stay with it. But today's interest accepts as valid only what is interesting. And interesting is the sort of thing that can freely be regarded as indifferent the next moment, and be displaced by something else, which then concerns us just as little as what went before. Many people today take the view that they are doing great honor to something by finding it interesting. The truth is that such an opinion has already relegated the interesting thing to the ranks of what is indifferent and soon boring. It is no evidence of any readiness to think that people show an interest in philosophy. ... But even if we have devoted many years to the intensive study of the treatises and writings of the great thinkers, that fact is still no guarantee that we ourselves are thinking, or even are ready to learn thinking. On the contrary - preoccupation with philosophy more than anything else may give us the stubborn illusion that we are thinking just because we are incessantly 'philosophizing'. (Heidegger, _What Is Called Thinking?_) Thinking begins when one takes seriously the duality of individual beings and Being, the participation of individual beings in Being and the Being of individual things. "Western-European thinking, in keeping with the guiding question ... what is the particular being in its Being?, proceeds from beings to Being. Thinking ascends from the former to the latter. In keeping with the guiding question, thinking transcends the particular being, in the direction of Being, not in order to leave behind and abandon the particular being, but so that by this ascent, this transcendence, it may represent the particular being in that which it, as a being, is. (Heidegger, _What Is Called Thinking?_) By reflecting on the thingness of things, one moves beyond use-fullness to an openness to things as they are. This is not a rejection of use-fullness but rather a move to engage the world as something more than what we as human beings do with it. In this sense, the distinction between ontic and ontological serves as an argument against humanism. To think, to distinguish between particular things and their thingness, is to be open to the fact of our situatedness in the world. That thinking matters, that the distinction between ontic and ontological matters, is not something that can be argued for or proven. Either one cares or one doesn't. So, while the above have the appearance of being answers, they can't be. If one asks 'So what?', the above can only be a response but they can't be an answer that would satisfy the person asking the question. If the above would be an answer, the question could only be rhetorical and therefore without need of an answer. I therefore suggest that the above is how Heidegger might answer but that it isn't an answer at all. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html