Dr. Palma: Can anybody quote a scientist who claims that science gives me the best (??) and "most significant" (???) access to myself? IF you consider Francis Bacon a scientist, or proto-scientist, there's his essay "Of Studies": "Histories make men wise; poets, witty; the mathematics, subtile; natural philosophy [science(?) - EY], deep; moral, grave; logic and rhetoric, able to contend." . ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html