[lit-ideas] Re: On being called a Lyre [dilemmas]

  • From: palma <palma@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:29:35 -0400 (EDT)

I fail to see what the excrement Heidegger adds to the falsity of the
view.
Can anybody quote a scientist who claims that science gives me the best
(??) and "most significant" (???) access to myself?
I'd like a specific source not more babbling frm the nazi swine so
celebrated by inane academics


On Wed, 24 Sep 2008
cblists@xxxxxxxx wrote:

>
> On 21-Sep-08, at 8:51 PM, wokshevs@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Scientists seduced by the allure of brain science ...
>
> To say nothing of philosophers seduced by same:
>
>       ... philosophical scientism fails to see the role that
>       science and technology play in the alienation of
>       human beings from the world through the latter's
>       objectification into a causally determined realm of
>       nature or, more aggregiously, into a reified realm of
>       commodities manipulated by an instrumental rationality.
>        .... [S]cientism rests on the false assumption that the
>       scientific or theoretical way of viewing things ... provides
>       the primary and most significant access to ourselves and
>       the world.  ... [T]he scientific view of the world is derivative
>       and parasitic upon a prior practical view of the world as
>       [in Heideggerian terms] ready-to-hand, that is, the environing
>       world that is closest, most familiar, and most meaningful
>       to us, the world that is always colored by our cognitive,
>       ethical and aesthetic values.  That is to say, scientism ...
>       overlooks the phenomenon of the *life-world* which is
>       the enabling condition for scientific practice.  Although
>       such an anti-scientism *can* lead to obscurantism ... it
>       *need* not do so.  The critique of scientism    ... does not
>       seek to refute or negate the results of scientific research in
>       the name of some mystical apprehension of the unity of
>       man and nature ...; it rather simply insists that science does
>       not provide the primary and most significant access to a
>       sense of ourselves and the world.... [T]he practices of the
>       natural sciences arise out of life-world practices, and ...
>       the latter are not simply reducible to the former.
>
> [from Simon Critchley, "Introduction: what is Continental
> philosophy?", in Simon Critchley and William R Schroeder, eds. _A
> Companion to Continental Philosophy_, Oxford: Blackwell Publishers,
> 1998; p. 13]
>
> Of course, one does not have to side with Heidegger in order to be
> critical of 'scientism' - Adorno & Horkheimer (with all of their
> antipathies to Heidegger) immediately come to (well, at least, *my*)
> mind. (I think it is the 'commodities manipulated by an instrumental
> rationality' which triggers that.)
>
> Indeed I think that in Kant's 'Copernican revolution' in philosophy a
> critique of theoretical science providing 'the primary and most
> significant access to ourselves and the world' can be founded.
> (Tentative explication of this view will be made available upon
> request.)
>
> One must be fair to the scientists themselves.  Not all are (or were)
> 'realists' when it comes to philosophising about their endeavours;
> indeed some regard(ed) realism as an impediment to scientific progress
> (the parenthetical past tenses - 'were' and 'regarded' are prompted by
> thoughts of the debate between the early developers of quantum theory
> and Einstein: the former thought that Einstein's commitment to realism
> a serious hindrance).  'Anti-scientism' (i.e., rejection of the view
> that science 'provides the primary and most significant access to
> ourselves and the world') is most definitely not automatically 'anti-
> science'.
>
> - Chris Bruce
> Kiel, Germany
> --
>
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