[lit-ideas] Re: On being called a Lyre
- From: "Julie Krueger" <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:01:30 -0500
I cannot tell you how gladdened I am to read this from you. Although I note
you must have made a typo re. McCain's age relative to Palin's....
Julie Krueger
(hey -- I couldn't resist. Well I could possibly have but I didn't. No,
actually, I couldn't...)
<<This business of pressuring the Iraqis is of special concern to me. It
doesn't make me happy because if true it will favor McCain. It alarms me
because if true and he is elected we have the very situation that was my
impression, my opinion, that he isn't listening to advice and that he doesn't
know how inexperienced he is – or perhaps he does know and doesn't care(just
"my fear" and not even an opinion). How much experience did Alexander have
when he set off conquering and to conquer? He was even younger than Sarah
Palin – not that she has the sort of ego Alexander did.>>
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Lawrence Helm
<lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Sometimes the dna doesn't take. You'd think it would, but look at you,
> born a Catholic and now you're a murtadd – unless that dna is still down
> there somewhere causing you anguish and feelings of guilt that you are
> drowning with your favorite beverage.
>
> A person might be born a Muslim for example but then whisked away through
> no fault of his own and now be running for president – another murtadd.
>
> But I'm one myself. I was once a Leftist. I don't know if I was born
> one, my father never told me; although he worked on the docks driving a
> lumber carrier for most of his working life. At one time he worked for
> the Union, so he was probably a Leftist.
>
> So if that dna is lurking there someplace, perhaps one day you'll snap
> back to Catholicism and I'll snap back to Leftism. What a thought. I'd
> have to give up thinking logically and reading the best authorities. What
> would I do with my library?
>
> Maybe you could help me get hooked into the Leftist osmotic hot-line. I
> never did figure out how that worked. Back when I was a Leftist we used
> to hand around the best Leftist books; which we had to read to be Leftists
> in good standing. You guys never study. You never read anything, but you
> always knew the correct Leftist answer. Pretty amazing if you ask me.
> Maybe it wouldn't be so bad – warm and fuzzy – lint -- long hair – beard
> -- Cum Baya . . .
>
> Lawrence Helm
>
> San Jacinto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Geary
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: On being called a Lyre
>
> I'm not sure I understand the difference between "an emotional moral
>
> approach" and "unexamined political prejudice and stereotyping". They both
>
>
> seem to me to be derived from that core, unknowable self -- that tightly
>
> wound wad of prejudices towards which we were bent by the first couplings
> of
>
> DNA and strengthened by the instructions of our personal history and which
>
> have governed all our judgments ever since -- or, at least, heavily
>
> influenced. For that reason, I forgive Lawrence his views, knowing that
>
> it's his mother's fault amplified by the error in his father's genes. I
> was
>
> lucky, I got the right political genes and right political education from
>
> day one. My first words were "Franklin Delano Roosevelt."
>
> What's the chance then of my convincing Lawrence he's wrong? Damn slim.
>
> But it exists. Just as it's possible that anyone being a bit bull-headed
>
> might butt his head against a locked door until his face is covered in
> blood
>
> and his head is throbbing with pain suddenly gets the idea: "This ain't
>
> going to work. Maybe I should try something else." That's epiphany time,
>
> folks! When what once worked, doesn't work anymore, most of us move on to
>
> new things. Lawrence thinks our heads should be pretty bloodied by now and
>
>
> we think the same about him. Time will tell. Could be the Christian Right
>
>
> is right -- or the Muslims!! But I'll be pretty damn bloody before I'll
>
> admit to either of those.
>
> Mike Geary
>
> Memphis
>
>
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