--- David Savory <dsavory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that real racism, which is > certainly an > > issue in Denmark (and Sweden, and pretty much > every > > else...) is magnified in the eye of its victim. > > This of course is true but it's also true that the > victim rather than > the victimizer ought to be the one given primacy in > the decision to > determine if an offence had occurred; if I want to > know what we should > learn from the Holocaust, I'm asking a Jew, not a > Nazi. > Upon futher reflection, what I really wanted to say is that racism leads to paranoia (in a non-clinical sense of the word). Generally speaking, when ones fellows are paranoid the last thing to do is to go a long, while "I see how you could feel like that, but..." is the sane response. The obvious caveat ofcourse is that they may well not be paranoid in that particular case. Following Godwin's Law, I'll take the liberty to modify your example: When a veteran of one our wars with Russians tells me that he finds Russian immigrants in Finland offencive, I would argue in a long and respectful way that he is wrong. In general, what it is proper to get offended about is a social convention. How mad can you reasonably be for someone not showing up on agreed upon time is one thing that varies greatly from culture to culture for example. Cheers, Teemu Helsinki, Finland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html