[lit-ideas] "Objects Are Colourless" (TLP): the 'internal/external' property distinction

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:24:08 EDT

In a message dated 5/26/2004 9:56:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
Henninge@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
One is  the distinction between internal and external
properties of the objects.  The internal properties are logical, are in his
logical space. Basically,  color is an external property. 
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I'm not sure I understand this.
I understand Wittgenstein was familiar with both propositional and  predicate 
logic.
In predicate logic, something like "There is a blue book (Wittgenstein's)  on 
the table" would come out as
Ex.Fx & Gx & Hx
where "F" refers to the property, "being a book"
"G"  "                  "            "being  blue"
"H"   "                 "            "being  on the table.
Ditto, "all crows are black" comes out as
(x) Fx -> Gx
For every x, if x is a black, x is black.
The point being that 'colour' looks like a pretty _logical_ (internal)  
property in that it gets a representation in the logical form of what you are  
trying to say.
As opposed to 'beautiful':
That blue Picasso is beautiful.
would come out as
(!)(ix) Fx & Gx
The x is blue and the x is Picasso, and BUY IT (or admire it)! ('beautiful'  
can have just an 'emotive' meaning -- does not represented in the logical 
form). 
Some colour words do tend to have 'connotative associations' -- 'Red!' --  
but that's surely implicatural.
If Wittgenstein meant to say that 'external' properties are _perceiving  
subject_-relative, then most in life generally is.

Cheers,
JL


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