[lit-ideas] Re: Obama Critique from Hanson

  • From: "veronica caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:22:51 -0400

The AMA is a pac and a union. It is more favorable viewed by the public than pacs and unions of ordinary workers, such as the UAW. The latter is looked upon by many as greedy.


Veronica


----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Paul" <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
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Quoting Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:

You've been responding as if my original aim were something other than to highlight a social/marketing issue. As a result, we've been into all kinds of tangents ... like health care. (On the issue of health care, my knowledge is sparse. I'm very close to an MD, who says the current bill is hated by the AMA -- because it will reduce tests and kill more patients -- but loved by the insurance companies.)

Eric, does your friend belong to the AMA? The AMA is often assumed* to
be the voice of American physicians; however, only ca. 25 per-cent of
American physicians belong to it; younger doctors disagree more and
more with its policies and do not see it as representing them. It
might as well be a PAC (as opposed to its being something like the
American College of Surgeons, e.g., writ large.

Simply put, I've never seen tie-in merchandising for a President three months into his first term. Have you? It's creepy and false. (The usual rejoinder is, "Look how terrible Bush was. Why can't people celebrate?") Yet that creepy, false marketing of Obama has worked to his disadvantage. People naturally sense something "authoritarian" about branding an administration as though it were a soft drink.

I really don't know what the hell you're talking about--I may just be
too dense. But who in the world bases their views on Obama (or on
Brett Favre) just because bobble-head dolls of both are no doubt sold
somewhere? (The Mall of America?)

Yesterday you speculated, to put it softly, that the decreasing sales
of Obama Quoting Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:

You've been responding as if my original aim were something other than to highlight a social/marketing issue. As a result, we've been into all kinds of tangents ... like health care. (On the issue of health care, my knowledge is sparse. I'm very close to an MD, who says the current bill is hated by the AMA -- because it will reduce tests and kill more patients -- but loved by the insurance companies.)

Eric, does your friend belong to the AMA? The AMA is often assumed* to
be the voice of American physicians; however, only ca. 25 per-cent of
American physicians belong to it; younger doctors disagree more and
more with its policies and do not see it as representing them. It
might as well be a PAC (as opposed to its being something like the
American College of Surgeons, e.g., writ large.

Simply put, I've never seen tie-in merchandising for a President three months into his first term. Have you? It's creepy and false. (The usual rejoinder is, "Look how terrible Bush was. Why can't people celebrate?") Yet that creepy, false marketing of Obama has worked to his disadvantage. People naturally sense something "authoritarian" about branding an administration as though it were a soft drink.

I really don't know what the hell you're talking about--I may just be
too dense. But who in the world bases their views on Obama (or on
Brett Favre) just because bobble-head dolls of both are no doubt sold
somewhere? (The Mall of America?)

Yesterday you speculated, to put it softly, that the decreasing sales of
Quoting Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:

You've been responding as if my original aim were something other than to highlight a social/marketing issue. As a result, we've been into all kinds of tangents ... like health care. (On the issue of health care, my knowledge is sparse. I'm very close to an MD, who says the current bill is hated by the AMA -- because it will reduce tests and kill more patients -- but loved by the insurance companies.)

Eric, does your friend belong to the AMA? The AMA is often assumed* to
be the voice of American physicians; however, only ca. 25 per-cent of
American physicians belong to it; younger doctors disagree more and
more with its policies and do not see it as representing them. It
might as well be a PAC (as opposed to its being something like the
American College of Surgeons, e.g., writ large.

Simply put, I've never seen tie-in merchandising for a President three months into his first term. Have you? It's creepy and false. (The usual rejoinder is, "Look how terrible Bush was. Why can't people celebrate?") Yet that creepy, false marketing of Obama has worked to his disadvantage. People naturally sense something "authoritarian" about branding an administration as though it were a soft drink.

I really don't know what the hell you're talking about--I may just be
too dense. But who in the world bases their views on Obama (or on
Brett Favre) just because bobble-head dolls of both are no doubt sold
somewhere? (The Mall of America?) I have an Obama poster (small) that
the Democratic Party sent me gratis after I checked a box on one of
their mailings; but suppose it had cost five bucks. The notion that
such things are signs of an 'authoritarian' state is. well, novel. I
have to confess though that after reading several detective novels set
in Scotland, I keep hearing a voice in my ear urging me to drink
Irn-Bru.

Yesterday you speculated, to put it softly, that the declining sales
of Obama tchotskes at K-Mart (all all of their locations?) was a sign
of Obama's declining popularity. I would suggest that sales of
Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl memorabilia since February, is hardly a
sign that their fans no longer support them. There are finitely many
Pittsburgh fans, of course, and a decline in sales of this junk is
surely better explained by the market's having been saturated.

*By the media.

Robert Paul,
somewhere south of Reed College,
on a hot day

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