[lit-ideas] Re: Obam tried to stall G.I., Iraq withdrawal
- From: "Julie Krueger" <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:17:42 -0500
'Scuse, please, but my muddled head does need some clearing...
If Obama had been encouraging Iraqi leaders to delay troop withdrawal to
agree with the Bush stance and delay withdrawal, rather than complying with
his (Obama's) own belief about what was best, articulated in his stump
speeches .... was that not absolutely supporting the governmental
sovereignty of the Bush administration?
Julie Krueger
obviously befuddled
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yesterday, Lawrence, courtesty of a 'lurker,' called our attention to an
> article in the New York Post, by Amir Taheri
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> http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm
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> which begins
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> 'While campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from
> Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to
> delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
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> 'According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand
> for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in
> July.
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> '"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the
> US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,"
> Zebari said in an interview.'
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> I will pass over Taheri's idiotic use of the word 'demand,' and leave aside
> for now his record of asserting things that have been shown to be lies and
> distortions, and turn to the use Lawrence has made of the Taheri/Zebari
> claim in at least two subsequent posts.
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> [Judy: "Looks like a right wing site to me"]
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> Lawrence: That would invalidate her observations about the legality of
> Obama's actions. I forgot about that. Sorry.
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> Obama's actions? I know that Lawrence is a careful reader and thinker, but
> to leap from 'Taheri says Zaheri says Obama did something,' to 'Therefore
> Obama did something,' is a leap of faith, not logic. I'm sure that under
> less desperate circumstances Lawrence would have said, 'If Obama actually
> did what Taheri says he did, that might raise legal questions about his
> actions.' But he does not say this. He speaks of 'Obama's actions' as if it
> now went without saying that there were indeed such actions.
>
> Lawrence: Amy Holmes comments on Amir Taheri[s] account of Obama's recent
> actions in Iraq...
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> There's a further case of assuming to be true what is merely said to be
> true, in an article by Ken Blanchard, 'Now we learn that when Obama was
> meeting with senior Iraqi leaders, he actually tried to delay negotiations
> that would have lead to an American draw down...,' but it isn't clear
> whether Lawrence is uncritically accepting what Blanchard says Tehari says
> Zebari says, or merely passing it on for our examination and reflection. I
> think I know which it is, but to say so would only amount to my expressing
> my opinion.
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> Robert Paul
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