In a message dated 5/24/2010 12:42:30 P.M., jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx writes: I don't think he was a misogynistic fascist. But he was not the founder of Christianity, St. Paul was and he was decidedly a fascistic misogynist. As were all the Fathers of the Church and such "great" theologians as Thomas Aquinas and a startling number of Western philosophers. Men hate women because they need them. ---- When I was researching on negation with L. Horn, I found a title, "Not Paul". This was a book (cited in the OED2). It is about St. Paul. The title of the book -- complete with epigraph, is "Not Paul, but Peter". -- cfr. "Robbing Peter to pay Paul". I always interpreted this to refer to Strawson and Grice -- whose Christian names were Peter and Paul. The problem with Paul Grice was his father, Herbert Grice. Grice disliked being called 'a chip off the old block' (both were musicians and would play together -- Herbert senior played the violin, Herbert junior the piano. Derek, the junior Grice, would play the cello). ---- Grice would only sign his essays as "H. P. Grice". In America, he started to sign them as "H. Paul Grice". By the time of his death (1988), his book (1989) came out, alas, as being the work of one "Paul Grice", yet, on p. x, in (c) section you read "(c) Herbert Paul Grice". So there! ---- J. L. Speranza, Bordighera