On 2004/04/03, at 21:39, John Wager wrote: > To what extent does all this "beating around the bush" also come from > the strong Buddhist tradition in Japan? There are two Buddhist ideas > at > work here: "Right Speech" and the whole approach of "paying attention" > to the details of daily life. > > It would seem that "right speech" would be gentle, non-assertive, > non-aggressive, meandering so that it was not posessive or persuasive, > just suggestive. This promotes non-attachment. > > And the Buddhist focus on paying attention to the details of daily life > would move the speaker in the same direction: What's happening around > us > now? What's going on in the family? What details are currently the > important ones to attend to? When the speaker does get to the point, > the evidence isn't pushed, just presented, so that the listener, IF he > pays attention, can put the pieces together for himself. These are very interesting remarks, pointing in another direction that I hadn't considered. I am, however, more inclined to see the Buddhist tradition as one elaboration of a more widely distributed pattern typically associated with strongly hierarchical forms of social organization. The reference to Arabic was suggested by a piece glimpsed on the Web (and, boy, do I wish I could still remember the URL), which sounded almost word for word like things frequently said about Japanese. John L. McCreery The Word Works, Ltd. 55-13-202 Miyagaya, Nishi-ku Yokohama, Japan 220-0006 Tel 81-45-314-9324 Email mccreery@xxxxxxx "Making Symbols is Our Business" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html