[lit-ideas] Re: New Orleans

  • From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:10:56 EDT

I'm afraid that would require the nature of human-ness to be radically and  
constitutionally changed.
Julie Krueger

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Wouldn't it be nice if there were no  religion in the world?


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The People Of the Book (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) seem to have a  very 
strange notion of the Main Character.  The sentiment below echoes  statements 
already made by the "Christian Right" and a very right-wing sect of  Jews.
How sad.
Julie Krueger

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Date: 9/1/05 8:53:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time  From: _andreas@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
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Hey, forget Germany. Here's Kuwait on the  hurricane. Kuwait is an American 
ally. --andreas

> Senior  Kuwaiti Official: "Katrina is a Wind of Torment and Evil from 
> Allah  Sent to This American Empire"
> "The Terrorist Katrina is One of the  Soldiers of Allah..."
> To view this Special Dispatch in HTML,  visit 
>  http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD97705
> "...As I  watched the horrible sights of this wondrous storm, I was 
> reminded of  the Hadith of the Messenger of Allah [in the compilations] 
> of  Al-Bukhari and Abu Daoud. The Hadith says: 'The wind is of the wind 
>  of Allah, it comes from mercy or for the sake of torment. When you see  
> it, do not curse it, [but rather] ask Allah for the good that is in  
> it, and ask Allah for shelter from its evil.' Afterwards, I was  [also] 
> reminde d of the words of the Prophet Muhammad: 'Do not curse  the wind, 
> as it is the fruit of Allah's planning. He who curses  something that 
> should not be cursed - the curse will come back to  him.'
> "When the satellite channels reported on the scope of  the terrifying 
> destruction in America [caused by] this wind, I was  reminded of the 
> words of [Prophet Muhammad]: 'The wind sends torment  to one group of 
> people, and sends mercy to others.' I do not think -  and only Allah 
> [really] knows - that this wind, which completely  wiped out American 
> cities in these days, is a wind of mercy and  blessing. It is almost 
> certain that this is a wind of torment and  evil that Allah has sent to 
> this American empire. Out of my absolute  belief in the truth of the 
> words of the Prophet Muhammad, this wind  is the fruit of the planning 
> [of Allah], as is stated in the text of  the Hadith of the Prophe t.
> "But I began to ask myself:  Doesn't this country [the U.S.] claim to 
> aspire to establish justice,  freedom, and equality amongst the people? 
> Isn't this country claiming  that everything it did in Afghanistan and 
> Iraq was for truth and  justice? How can it be that these American 
> claims are untrue, when we  see how good prevails in the streets of 
> Afghanistan, and how it  became an oasis of security with America's 
> entrance there? How can  these American claims in the matter of Iraq be 
> untrue, when we see  that Iraq has become the most tranquil and secure 
> country in the  world?"
> "But how strange it is that after all the tremendous  American 
> achievements for the sake of humanity, these mighty winds  come and 
> evilly rip [America's] cities to shreds? Have the storms  have joined 
> the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization?
> "The  Disaster Will Keep Striki ng the Unbelievers for What They Have 
>  Done"
> "How sad I am for America. Here it is, poor thing,  trying with all its 
> might to lower oil prices which have reached  heights unprecedented in 
> all history. Along with America's phenomenal  efforts to lower the 
> price of oil in order to salvage its declining  economy and its 
> currency - that is still falling due to the 'smart'  policy America is 
> implementing in the world - comes this storm, the  fruit of Allah's 
> planning, so that [the price of] a barrel of oil  will increase further 
> still. By Allah, this is not  schadenfreude.
> "Oh honored gentlemen, I began to read about  these winds, and I was 
> surprised to discover that the American  websites that are translated 
> [into Arabic] are talking about the fact  that that the storm Katrina 
> is the fifth equatorial storm to strike  Florida this year... and that 
> a large part of the U.S. is subject  every year to many storms that 
> extract [a price of] dead, and  completely destroy property. I said, 
> Allah be praised, until when  will these successive catastrophes strike 
> them?
> "But  before I went to sleep, I opened the Koran and began to read in 
> Surat  Al-R'ad ['The Thunder' chapter], and stopped at these words [of 
>  Allah]: 'The disaster will keep striking the unbelievers for what they  
> have done, or it will strike areas close to their territory, until  the 
> promise of Allah comes to pass, for, verily, Allah will not fail  in 
> His promise.' [Koran  13:31]."
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