Home & Cant --- Cant as Pict. >we haven't even got to playing with the vowel Indeed, we have. The 'o' turned to 'u' (Home --> Hume). O. T. O. H., note that 'cant' is ambiguous: cant (n.1) Look up cant at Dictionary.com"insincere talk," 1709, earlier it was slang for "whining of beggars" (1640s), from the verb in this sense (1560s), from Old North French canter (Old French chanter) "to sing, chant," from Latin cantare, frequentative of canere "to sing" (see chant (v.)). Sense in English developed after 1680 to mean the jargon of criminals and vagabonds, thence applied contemptuously by any sect or school to the phraseology of its rival. ... Slang is universal, whilst Cant is restricted in usage to certain classes of the community: thieves, vagrom men, and -- well, their associates. ... Slang boasts a quasi-respectability denied to Cant, though Cant is frequently more enduring, its use continuing without variation of meaning for many generations. [John S. Farmer, Forewords to "Musa Pedestris," 1896] cant (n.2) Look up cant at Dictionary.com"slope, slant," late 14c., Scottish, "edge, brink," from Old North French cant "corner" (perhaps via Middle Low German kante or Middle Dutch kant), from Vulgar Latin *canthus, from Latin cantus "iron tire of a wheel," possibly from a Celtic word meaning "rim of wheel, edge" (cf. Welsh cant "bordering of a circle, tire, edge," Breton cant "circle"), from PIE *kam-bo- "corner, bend," from root *kemb- "to bend, turn, change" (cf. Greek kanthos "corner of the eye," Russian kutu "corner"). O. T. O. H., the [male] spouse of a countess, in England, is an _earl_. In a message dated 4/27/2013 8:33:12 A.M. UTC-02, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: [A]s Kant is Scottish may I claim him as Irish as the Scottish are just Irish who took a boat trip and didn't come back (hence Scots Gaelic is a derivative of Irish Gaelic). [David should be able to confirm this]. Or not. In fact, what I think McEvoy needs is disconfirmation from Sellars/Yeatman, "1066 and all that", as per ps. Cheers, Speranza Important Note The Scots (originally Irish, but by now Scotch) were at this time inhabiting Ireland, having driven the Irish (Picts) out of Scotland; while the Picts (originally Scots) were now Irish (living in brackets) and vice versa. It is essential to keep these distinctions clearly in mind (and verce visa). ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html