[lit-ideas] Negative Polarity

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:30:36 EDT

 
Thanks to M. Chase for the reference.
 
>fragment 53 Diels-Kranz (=3D fr. 83 in the excellent study by  Charles=20
>Kahn, Art and thought of Heraclitus, Cambridge 1979, p.  207ff)=A0: War =
>is=20
>father of all and king of all. As Kahn  writes (p. 209) ...it would be=20
>tedious to attempt a catalogue of all  examples of polar contrsat or=20
>opposition [sc. in Heraclitus]: there is  scarcely a text of Heraclitus=20=
>that would not have to be  included....the doctrine of opposites, like=20
>the thesis of unity which  is its counterpart, is coextensive with=20
>Heraclitus' thought as a  whole".
 
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Incidentally, I'm sorry my previous ref. to Liddell-Scott got all those  
cumbersome link references. I just copied the entry for 'antithesis' --  with 
the 
Plato one quote -- from the online version and I was unable  to turn it into 
plain text (but then it was Greek). 
 
While I agree with Kahn that it would be tedious to... etc. -- that depends  
on what you mean by 'tedious' (as Geary et al. will agree). 
 
Surely one can 'catalogue' the examples of polar contrsat (sic) and still  
find it amusing -- especially is, as Chase, you do it in Greek. The idea is 
that 
 perhaps Heraclitus was wrong in some of the examples (notably 'war is the 
father  of all...' etc). 
 
The idea: some items are not necessarily polar (I don't think 'war' is. In  
any case, the polar contrsat (sic) of 'war' is 'non-war', and not, as 
Heraclitus  thought, 'peace' (eirene). Ditto, the polar contrsat of 'peace' is 
non-peace,  and not, as some think, war.
 
Linguists refer to this (et al) as _negative_ polarity (as in Josephine  
Baker's Parisian success at "The Red Mill", in Montmartre: "Yes, we have no  
bananas", "Mai oui, nous n'avons pas _des_ banana's" -- in C major) -- to  
contrsat 
(sic) it with _positive_ polarity (cf. "I didn't sleep a wink" vs. the  odd 
"positive" polar expression, "I did sleep a wink"). What's a polar negative  
item varies from language to language, and possibly from dialect to dialect (or 
 
ideolect, as Geary likes to spell it).
 
Are there polar bears in Antarctica?
 
Cheers,
 
JL






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