[lit-ideas] Re: My Cup of Tea

  • From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 07:51:02 +0000 (GMT)

And Aristotle, apparently, was a bugger for the bottle.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-philosophers-song-lyrics-monty-python.html

Dnl




On Thursday, 2 January 2014, 2:26, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 
And from Kant: "If a smuggled bottle of so-so vodka is available, rational 
autonomy dictates us to abandon all the antinomies of pure reason until it is 
drunk."



On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:22 AM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
 
Hegel says: "To measure beer in pints is for the accursed British of the isles. 
No true German would ever stoop to measuring the quantity of his beer, provided 
that the quality is good."

(Alcohologica, part 2, chapter 3)



On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:08 AM, "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> 
wrote:
 
In a message dated 12/31/2013 2:09:22 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Well, just as we can  intelligibly say 'a bottle of vodka,' without 
specifying the
 quantity, so it  seems to me that we can intelligibly say 'a box of 
pizza'  without  specifying the quantity. A box of pizza being delivered is 
not necessarily  equivalent to what you get when you order 'a pizza' in a 
restaurant. It may be  that, ehem, there are 'deeper' philosophical
 issues at 
stake that escape me at  present.  

Similarly, Grice raises doubts as to the expression,

'cup of tea'

with or without the qualifying, 'nice cup of tea'.

Strictly, it should be, he notes, 'cup WITH tea'. 

I follow his argument: 'of' is etymologically, 'off', even if the Brits  
pronounce it 'ov'. A cup off tea would thus IMPLICATE (to use Grice's 
parlance)  something like what is implicated by 'a trip OFF shore'. 

Wittgenstein ("Philosophical Grammar") speaks of a 'pint of beer' within  
what he calls a 'form of life'/'language game' that provokes the same kind of 
linguistic puzzles.

Cheers,

Speranza


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