[lit-ideas] Re: Muslims (plural) disrupt Israeli philharmonic concert for Dutch Queen

  • From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:45:31 +0100 (BST)

First, *a Muslim* disrupted the *concert in Amsterdam*. He was taken away by 

Second, yes, your yourjewishnews report is fuller than the BBC news report I 
linked to, but in one sense anyway it is less accurate: it says *Muslims* 
disrupted the London prom..  But it doesn't identify the protesters, it doesn't 
mention that Deborah Fink, whom I mentioned, is Jewish.

I don't know yourjewishworldnews.  I checked the Jewish Chronicle. It seems to 
have no story of its own -- ah, I was wrong. 

It says, as you'll see, that a soloist, unidentified, has been suspended. It 
also says

"Veteran anti-Israel activist Tony Greenstein was among the protesters"


"The newly-formed Beethovians for Boycotting Israel group claimed 
responsibility for the initial disruption. Its members were led by Deborah 
Fink, singing lyrics written by academic Sue Blackwell, referring to "Israel's 
occupation, ethnic cleansing and apartheid"."

Deborah Fink is Jewish. Sue Blackwell is not Muslim. Tony Greenstein is Jewish. 
 Willem Meijs, who also took part, is not Muslim. Bruce Levy -- also 
demonstrating -- isn't, either. The JC's correct, the demonstrators are 


Following the jc's information, I find that Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, who also 
took part in the disruption, is a member of Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods.

I've found no identification of any Muslims.

The JC has a separate link to a Telegraph piece by its editor (the JC's editor) 
Stephen Pollard.  At the first page - still in the JC's blog -- demonstrators 
are listed


the Telegraph piece does not mention Muslims

“The British newspaper the Telegraph reported
 that the group Palestine Solidarity Campaign was responsible for the 

The PSC says it was demonstrating outside the concert.  The Telegraph stories 
I've seen don't say the PSC organised the protest though Pollard did assume 
that. It isn't a Muslim organisation, its patrons are listed here:  


It appears the reason protesters weren't arrested (assuming they'd broken the 
law: that's unclear) is that the concert's organisers didn't call them in.

I hope this helps...

--- On Sat, 10/9/11, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Muslims (plural) disrupt Israeli philharmonic concert for 
Dutch Queen
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, 10 September, 2011, 14:27

One can find a fuller description of what happened at 
http://yourjewishnews.com/10666.aspx ; Muslims around the audience popped up at 
different times.  Here is a description of the disruptions:  “The concert 
started as normal and then "a group of 10 to 15 people stood up in the choir 
stalls [behind the orchestra]," said London lawyer Paul Infield, 56, who was in 
the audience. “Each person was carrying a white sheet on which had been drawn a 
 spelling out 'Free Palestine.' “The group was singing words to the tune of 
Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" and went quietly when ushers removed them, he said.  
“Infield continued his account, saying that many in the audience of close to 
6,000 booed, hissed and shouted "Get out!" and "Go home!" along with 
obscenities. The audience also responded to the protest with slow hand 
clapping, which is considered an offensive gesture in Britain. Subsequent 
disruptions, which eventually numbered about half a dozen, were played out in a 
similar fashion. A man who had silently displayed an Israeli flag was also 
removed by Royal Albert Hall staff.  And yes, those attending the concert and 
wishing to hear the music were upset:  “According to Infield, the final 
disruption of the evening involved some shouting from the gallery about the 
siege of Gaza, which was silenced with a punch thrown by an adjacent audience 
member. Both parties were escorted quickly from the
 premises.”  The man who threw the punch probably isn’t as tolerant of creeping 
sharia as some in Britain seem to be.  “The British newspaper the Telegraph 
 that the group Palestine Solidarity Campaign was responsible for the 
disturbances.”  And here is a blog I haven’t encountered before 
“Islamic degradation of civil societies. What was once beautiful and precious 
is now the battleground for subhumans and savages. In a disgusting display of 
Islamic Jew-hatred, the BBC was forced to cancel its broadcast of the BBC proms 
concert at London's Royal Albert Hall for the first time in history.”  That’s 
rather harsh.  Where does this Citizen Watch person live, I wonder?  After a 
description of the disruption, not dissimilar from the one above, he concludes, 
“This is not new -- so many performances by Jewish artists and musicians are 
disrupted and ruined by these savage neanderthals who would have the whole 
world living under the bloody and brutal sharia, devoid of love, music, art and 
happiness.”  I must protest his
 use of the term “Neanderthals.”  I suspect they
 were much better behaved than anti-neanderthal prejudice has allowed.  Recent 
genetic discoveries prove that they passed some very useful genes down to us.  
Muslim disrupters aren’t passing anything useful to us as far as I can tell.  
Lawrence      From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lawrence Helm
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:37 PM
To: Lit-Ideas 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Muslim disrupt Israeli philharmonic concert for Dutch 
  Maybe you in Britain are used to this and take your usual offense at those of 
us in the U.S. expressing shock, but someone needs to be ashamed of this sort 
of behavior – if not the Muslim perpetrators then the permissiveness that 
permits them to misbehave.  If rather than condemn these clowns you excuse 
them, and via Google find something comparable happening in the U.S, I’ll save 
you the trouble.  I would feel the same way if it happened here, and it 
probably will.  Left-wing Liberalism is
 everywhere.  Lawrence

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