[lit-ideas] Re: Muslims (plural) disrupt Israeli philharmonic concert for Dutch Queen
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:45:31 +0100 (BST)
First, *a Muslim* disrupted the *concert in Amsterdam*. He was taken away by
police.
Second, yes, your yourjewishnews report is fuller than the BBC news report I
linked to, but in one sense anyway it is less accurate: it says *Muslims*
disrupted the London prom.. But it doesn't identify the protesters, it doesn't
mention that Deborah Fink, whom I mentioned, is Jewish.
I don't know yourjewishworldnews. I checked the Jewish Chronicle. It seems to
have no story of its own -- ah, I was wrong.
It says, as you'll see, that a soloist, unidentified, has been suspended. It
also says
"Veteran anti-Israel activist Tony Greenstein was among the protesters"
and
"The newly-formed Beethovians for Boycotting Israel group claimed
responsibility for the initial disruption. Its members were led by Deborah
Fink, singing lyrics written by academic Sue Blackwell, referring to "Israel's
occupation, ethnic cleansing and apartheid"."
Deborah Fink is Jewish. Sue Blackwell is not Muslim. Tony Greenstein is Jewish.
Willem Meijs, who also took part, is not Muslim. Bruce Levy -- also
demonstrating -- isn't, either. The JC's correct, the demonstrators are
anti-Zionists.
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/54319/soloist-suspended-after-israel-rant
Following the jc's information, I find that Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, who also
took part in the disruption, is a member of Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods.
I've found no identification of any Muslims.
The JC has a separate link to a Telegraph piece by its editor (the JC's editor)
Stephen Pollard. At the first page - still in the JC's blog -- demonstrators
are listed
http://www.thejc.com/blogs/stephen-pollard/a-proms-protest-a-whiff-weimar-about-it-telegraph
the Telegraph piece does not mention Muslims
“The British newspaper the Telegraph reported
that the group Palestine Solidarity Campaign was responsible for the
disturbances.”
The PSC says it was demonstrating outside the concert. The Telegraph stories
I've seen don't say the PSC organised the protest though Pollard did assume
that. It isn't a Muslim organisation, its patrons are listed here:
http://www.palestinecampaign.org/Index5b.asp?m_id=1&l1_id=2&l2_id=12
It appears the reason protesters weren't arrested (assuming they'd broken the
law: that's unclear) is that the concert's organisers didn't call them in.
I hope this helps...
--- On Sat, 10/9/11, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Muslims (plural) disrupt Israeli philharmonic concert for
Dutch Queen
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, 10 September, 2011, 14:27
One can find a fuller description of what happened at
http://yourjewishnews.com/10666.aspx ; Muslims around the audience popped up at
different times. Here is a description of the disruptions: “The concert
started as normal and then "a group of 10 to 15 people stood up in the choir
stalls [behind the orchestra]," said London lawyer Paul Infield, 56, who was in
the audience. “Each person was carrying a white sheet on which had been drawn a
letter
spelling out 'Free Palestine.' “The group was singing words to the tune of
Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" and went quietly when ushers removed them, he said.
“Infield continued his account, saying that many in the audience of close to
6,000 booed, hissed and shouted "Get out!" and "Go home!" along with
obscenities. The audience also responded to the protest with slow hand
clapping, which is considered an offensive gesture in Britain. Subsequent
disruptions, which eventually numbered about half a dozen, were played out in a
similar fashion. A man who had silently displayed an Israeli flag was also
removed by Royal Albert Hall staff. And yes, those attending the concert and
wishing to hear the music were upset: “According to Infield, the final
disruption of the evening involved some shouting from the gallery about the
siege of Gaza, which was silenced with a punch thrown by an adjacent audience
member. Both parties were escorted quickly from the
premises.” The man who threw the punch probably isn’t as tolerant of creeping
sharia as some in Britain seem to be. “The British newspaper the Telegraph
reported
that the group Palestine Solidarity Campaign was responsible for the
disturbances.” And here is a blog I haven’t encountered before
http://citizenkeep.blogspot.com/2011/09/islams-war-on-western-culture-bbc.html:
“Islamic degradation of civil societies. What was once beautiful and precious
is now the battleground for subhumans and savages. In a disgusting display of
Islamic Jew-hatred, the BBC was forced to cancel its broadcast of the BBC proms
concert at London's Royal Albert Hall for the first time in history.” That’s
rather harsh. Where does this Citizen Watch person live, I wonder? After a
description of the disruption, not dissimilar from the one above, he concludes,
“This is not new -- so many performances by Jewish artists and musicians are
disrupted and ruined by these savage neanderthals who would have the whole
world living under the bloody and brutal sharia, devoid of love, music, art and
happiness.” I must protest his
use of the term “Neanderthals.” I suspect they
were much better behaved than anti-neanderthal prejudice has allowed. Recent
genetic discoveries prove that they passed some very useful genes down to us.
Muslim disrupters aren’t passing anything useful to us as far as I can tell.
Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lawrence Helm
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:37 PM
To: Lit-Ideas
Subject: [lit-ideas] Muslim disrupt Israeli philharmonic concert for Dutch
Queen
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/muslims-disrupt-israeli-philharmonic-and-concert-for-dutch-queen-videos/
Maybe you in Britain are used to this and take your usual offense at those of
us in the U.S. expressing shock, but someone needs to be ashamed of this sort
of behavior – if not the Muslim perpetrators then the permissiveness that
permits them to misbehave. If rather than condemn these clowns you excuse
them, and via Google find something comparable happening in the U.S, I’ll save
you the trouble. I would feel the same way if it happened here, and it
probably will. Left-wing Liberalism is
everywhere. Lawrence
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