'Does that make Dr. Sultan, to use your words, Simon, a "representitive of the vocal element of the right wing"?' Hit a soft spot did I Lawrence? Shame. Of course, it's fine for you to critisize the British Welfare State, a system I happen to believe in. As for Dr Sultan, her words hardly make her right wing, although she does appear to be vocal. From the article, I'd say she is critisizing the fundamentalists rather than the average Muslim. Simon