[lit-ideas] Re: Muslim Prejudice (Judy?)
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:27:10 +0000 (GMT)
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The BBC America had a discussion about this lady and her comments.
The one I liked the best was the man who said that she ought not to have spoken
about anti-Muslim prejudice. Given her position, she ought to have spoken
out about how one of the causes of prejudice against Muslims is their refusal
to
except Western secular values.
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when exactly was this? could it have been before she made the speech? Was he
relying on the leaked excerpts printed in the right wing press? Had he even
read those? Have you?
|s it only OK to oppose discrimination and prejudice against members of a group
if all its members accept "Western secular values"?
(Is it OK to say "this lady" when you've been given a name? -- I suppose where
you are, "this lady" may be complimentary.)
speech here:
http://www.sayeedawarsi.com/2011/01/university-of-leicester-sir-sigmund-sternberg-lecture/
--- On Fri, 21/1/11, Veronica Caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Veronica Caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Muslim Prejudice (Judy?)
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 21 January, 2011, 14:53
The BBC America had a discussion about this lady and her comments.
The one I liked the best was the man who said that she ought not to have spoken
about anti-Muslim prejudice. Given her position, she ought to have spoken
out about how one of the causes of prejudice against Muslims is their refusal
to
except Western secular values. His contention, familiar to us all, that we
all accept people making fun of, and disrespecting the religion of, anyone
and everyone. Muslims generally won't accept this.
The performer M&M was to perform in Detroit a few years ago.
Because of the vulgarity, the city forbid it. He sued, won and the city
had to pay $300,000 restitution. The reaction of a very moderate
imam of a mosque near Detroit was: the show is shameful, the city out to
have prohibited it and no fine ought to have been levied.
I recently finished a book called, "Why I Am Not A Muslim." Among the
things I learned: that people who call the prophet a pedophile do so because he
married a nine year old girl, that he evidently was a bandit who shared the
spoils, and that he was killing Jews or driving them off the land as early as
the seventh century.
Re Eric's comment on stoning, if you haven't seen it, two recommendations:
the Christian method is in a film called "Zorba the Greek." The
Muslim version, in a film made by an Iranian, is called, "The Story of Soraya
M"
Zorba is also a book. I recommend you see the film. Also that
you don't eat before doing so.
Currently, there is a concern in Western countries that some Muslims are
taking daughters to the home country for circumcision and early marriage.
I have read about this issue being of concern in the U.S. and Canada
Veronica
----- Original Message -----
From:
Judith Evans
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:42
PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Muslim Prejudice
(Judy?)
I haven't read the speech, I did know about it.
"Baroness Warsi will say anti-Muslim prejudice is now seen by
many Britons as normal and uncontroversial"
I'd say there's a
lot of truth in this, I'd also say Sayeeda Warsi is not likely to
exaggerate the extent and degree of prejudice. Just one
thing
"She told the 2009 Conservative Party conference that
anti-Muslim hatred had become Britain's last socially acceptable form
of
bigotry"
There's another one, anti-gypsy prejudice.
I have
no idea how all this compares with the US
btw sorry distracted by
some terrific breaking news, the Labour Shadow Chancellor's resigned
and
Ed Balls, who should have got the job in the first place, is taking
over. Prepare to see Tory ministers dismembered!!!!
Judy
Evans, Cardiff
--- On Thu, 20/1/11, Julie C
<juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From:
Julie C <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Muslim
Prejudice (Judy?)
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, 20
January, 2011, 17:09
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12235237 Reactions
anyone? Judy?
Julie
Krueger
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