Norman, hello! I'm not sure about this, but possibly Jean Harris, who murdered her "diet doctor" longterm lover, might qualify. She admitted the murder. To me, the movie was quite compelling. Her worst punishment, as she saw it, was now having to live without him. Seems rather French--that is, tragically civilized--to me. Sad and stupid revenge of the semi-dumped mistress-who-would-be-wife, in her dreams. But what's a "passion killing" but love's stupidity carried to its inane extreme? Usually, though, the killer scrambles away in a total frenzy. Harris's style wasn't frenzied. She felt that her life was over when she realized her lover, her life, was dead. Herein lies the pathos. Perhaps it's less likely that American men in love would feel like this. American women, like French women (European women, in general), have had a near-total emotional and financial investment in the men they've been with (married or not), along with the uncommon societal freedom to walk away, if they so desired--or run away with someone else. Without this possibility, there'd be no Emma Bovary, no Anna Karenina, no Constance Chatterly. Interestly, the male authors felt obliged to punish their heroines, in the end. That D. H. Lawrence let Chatterly live, and presumably thrive, warranted the book's extended censorship. I sense that the "honorable" domestic, literary murderer believes he has "higher" motives than love or love's rejection. Namely, machismo. If his lover rejects him, then she may have no one (so there!). Such egotism isn't celebrated in the U.S., or throughout Europe, to my knowledge. However, I came across a similar theme--breaking the law for a higher principle, and being proud of it--on NPR, a few days ago. A fellow refuses to pay a portion of his taxes, protesting the war, and US militarism in general. He includes a note to the IRS with his tax form every year, explaining exactly what percentage he is withholding from the IRS, and why. To date, he's not been hassled, arrested, etc. But Americans think more about money than love. l'chaim, Carol ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html