[lit-ideas] Re: Murder by Membership

  • From: "Julie Krueger" <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:29:54 -0500

Ah, if only you had asked me years ago....another truth....within the
ineluctable embrace of this list time functions most oddly.  Stop a minute
and try to think where you were and what you were doing when you
subscribed.  Try to remember *when* that was.  A few months, you think?  A
few years perhaps?  Now, try to remember what was going on at the time in
your life -- a child's age, perhaps, or a change in employment, or a move,
which you actually have good reason to think you know the year.  Now
calculate.  I have avoided this exercise for the last few years (or has it
been months only?) -- the last time I did such a calculation it shook me to
my core.  I have belonged to other lists, in other times.  None, none mind
you, has the final inevitability of this one.  Through name changes, members
who *seem* to come and go, server changes, there is a core to this list,
much like the core of the LOST Island, which is immutable, ineluctable, and
must in my way of thinking in actuality reside somewhere within the Bermuda
Triangle.  For which I give thanks.

Some of you who have been here longer than I have .... think what *reams* of
stuff you've read and written!  That should give anyone pause.  And perhaps
even a sense of an underlying continuity through years which have seen so
many life changes.

Now *that's* truly a disconcerting notion .... that one of the constants in
my life over the span of too-many-to-type-here years is the most ephemeral
substance of them all -- a location in cyberspace.

Julie Krueger

On 6/2/08, wokshevs@xxxxxx <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote:
> I believe it's time for the truth about this List to be disclosed: members,
> once
> recruited, can neither check out anytime they please, nor ever
> leave.  Attempts
> to do either, indeed even the thought of doing either, will cause the
> release
> of a very large white bouncing ball which will chase you wherever you go
> until
> you cease your fruitless efforts at a life outside the zone.
> Powerful hallucinogenic substances, secretly instilled in your favourite
> foods
> and libations while you sleep, will at times give you the impression that
> you
> have indeed successfully escaped the demands of list membership on your
> authnticity and powers of analysis and are now happily pursuing the good
> life
> somewhere in Soho, free those interminable metaphysical disputes and those
> hair-splitting, mind-eroding conceptual analyses.... (not to mention the
> poetry
> .. oh the poetry!)
> But eventually ..... the truth slowly and indelibly begins to sink in:
> you're
> still here and you're still one of us. Caged forever in the space of
> reasons
> simply for failing to attain omniscience and omnipotence in this sublunary
> life. True, you're not alone ... and there's the rub.
> Dante or Rod Serling or The Cheap Detective or Public Reason? ... YOU
> decide.
> Karloff ... WALTER Karloff .... shaken, not stirred, by the truth of it
> all.
> Quoting Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > I've been thinking about this post below, and have decided that I need to
> > take some time off from posting on this list.&nbsp; I'd like to thank you
> all
> > for listening to my no doubt misdirected rants and I'd like to&nbsp;wish
> you
> > all a nice summer.&nbsp; I just thought I'd mention that the Seekers took
> > their melody for the Carnival is Over from the song Stenka Rasin.&nbsp;
> I've
> > pasted the only link Youtube seems to have.&nbsp; The fact that it's from
> > their farewell concert is sheer coincidence.&nbsp; The words from S.R.
> > superimpose perfectly but&nbsp;needless to say the Carnival is Over is
> not
> > S.R.&nbsp; I listened today to, talk about a rant, Marshall Goldman
> carrying
> > on about Petrostate Russia.&nbsp; The U.S. does exactly the same things
> they
> > do (our Veep is straight out of industry, etc. etc.), but that's
> > different.&nbsp; It's so sad that he spends his life studying something
> that
> > he can't find one good thing to say about.&nbsp; Why not find another
> >  country to study?&nbsp; Anyway, no Persian princesses being thrown
> overboard
> > here (BTW, Iranian beluga&nbsp;caviar is golden today because beluga
> > sturgeons rescued the princess and brought her home):
> > &nbsp;
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nze8B39OB0k
> >
> > Here is a musical tango version of S.R., put your dancing shoes on; the
> > writing on the record is Polish from what I can tell:
> > &nbsp;
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN-tNwcJosg&amp;NR=1
> > &nbsp;
> > Then pour a nice drink and try a jazzy, pretty&nbsp;version of Dark Eyes
> > (Ochi Chernye):
> > &nbsp;
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itbJkf74z24
> > &nbsp;
> > And with that, have a nice summer all.
> > &nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
> >
> > --- On Sun, 6/1/08, Phil Enns 
> > &lt;phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx<lt%3Bphil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx>&gt;
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Phil Enns &lt;phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx <lt%3Bphil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> &gt;
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Here's a new spin on preventative medicine
> > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 2:21 AM
> >
> > Robert Paul wrote, in response to someone's little rant:
> >
> > "Noted."
> >
> > Someone is doing their 'Andy' routine again.  I think of it as
> > watching a psychodrama.  Sometimes farce, sometimes tragic, always
> > pathological.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Phil Enns
> > Yogyakarta, Indonesia
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