Lawrence Helm wrote: "As a matter of fact I discussed all these matters at great length. You must have evaded my long notes." Nope. I think I have read most of what you have written. Putting a great deal of time and energy into something is not the same thing as getting work accomplished. You write a great deal but very little work gets done. I do appreciate your putting me on to a variety of writers, though. Lawrence continues: "And you are evading the point that your vaunted Indonesian moderation IS NOT HOLDING OUT EFFECTIVELY AGAINST EXTREMISM! They are losing ground. It would take a wiser person, perhaps a god, to know this. But I understand why you want it to be true. I return to my original point that there are many Muslims and influential Islamic institutions self-identifying as moderate in explicit opposition to extremism. Lawrence may close one eye and stare only in one direction but there is no reason why anyone else should. Sincerely, Phil Enns ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html