It seems to me that limiting imagination to "the ability to feel and experience what *YOU* yourself would feel and experience" is a bit of a stretch from more conventional meanings of "imagination." The word itself contains its root, "image," and an image is more than feeling and experience. It is, rather, a particular (typically visual) form by which feeling and experience are evoked. As any product designer can tell you, there's a lot more to imagination than the feelings and fuzzy notions of experience for which the designer must imagine a specific form. To call an iPad "magical" is not to imagine how the magic is produced. That said, I am inclined to agree that empathy is a precondition for moral judgment. I imagine a sociopath who observes another's suffering with keen interest, perhaps even enjoyment, but lacks empathy. I would not be inclined to call his judgments and subsequent actions moral. John On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>wrote: > I sometimes wonder whether we all share the same conception of what > "imagination" means. Is it the same as "empathy"? Hannah Arendt and Mannie > Kant > think not. If I remember the distinction correctly: empathy is the ability > to > feel and experience what someone else is feeling and experiencing in their > set > of circumstances, while imagination is the ability to feel and experience > what > *YOU* yourself would feel and experience in the other's shoes. I think this > is > a distinction with a real difference but I'm of course open to refutation. > (I > think that empathy is not sympathy: You may be able to feel what the other > feels but you have no sympathy for the other since you believe she deserves > the > dessert she receives for her transgressions.) > > Two questions that immediately come to mind: > > 1) Is either empathy or imagination a necessary feature of a moral life? > Could > a > sense of obligation and respect for the autonomy and dignity of others as > ends-in-themselves compensate for one's inability to feel empathy for > others' > suffering or imagine "what it would be like ..."? > > 2) Should moral education aim at developing children's capacities for > empathy > or > for imagination or neither? Could one faculty be developed independently of > the > other? > > > Quoting Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>: > > > I wrote > > > > > My point was that I consider it to have been 'wrong' (a word that > > > seems far too thin to characterize what was done in the Nazi > > > concentration camps), even though I cannot begin to imagine what it > > > would have been like to have lived and suffered in one of them. > > > Granted, Donal (via Popper?) says that such a feat of the imagination > > > is a sufficient condition for being able to condemn the killing of > > > millions of human beings in such barbaric ways; yet, to repeat, I > > > don't believe it is even a necessary condition. I can't do it by means > > > of any thought experiment, and no more can I imagine what it would be > > > like to be a twelve-year-old girl dying of cancer. > > > > I was trying to rewrite a sentence and garbled it even more. Neither > > Donal nor Popper believes that such a feat of the imagination is a > > sufficient condition for....etc. > > > > Apologies. > > > > Robert Paul > > > > > This electronic communication is governed by the terms and conditions at > http://www.mun.ca/cc/policies/electronic_communications_disclaimer_2011.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 jlm@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wordworks.jp/