In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:11:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pastone@xxxxxxxxx writes: Well, at least type, anyway. fellow minkey, p-- ---- Of course, not having read googlebooks Grice, Studies in the Way of Words, iii, you missed the implicature. Grice wants to defend Tarski 'snow is white' is true iff snow is white -- but Grice notes, "This seems insufficient. Sometimes we do say, "What my mother said was true". This is what Grice calls a 'blind' use of 'true', and it cannot be rendered using the idiotic Tarski formula, which needs to QUOTE the allegedly 'true' sentence. Grice says, "I might just as well say -- "What the policeman said was true." If, at a later stage, I find out that what the policeman said was, 'Monkeys Can Speak', I can correct myself and say, "Of course I was wrong -- he (the policeman) is an idiot." Typing has nothing to do with it. Grice couldn't type. "Some people,-- Grice notes -- think that a typewriter is a useful machine, a valuable one [he is considering the objectivity of value]. Not to me, who can't type." Nor to me, who _can_ type. Cheers, JL Speranza Buenos Aires, Argentina **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html