[lit-ideas] Mitfordiana

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  • Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:24:20 -0500

In a message dated 2/15/2015 3:29:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
Palma@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
"Alas Harvard was a person, hence calling Harvard  Harvard university is 
just fine and dandy even by the silly gricean maxims.  Padua university is 
called padua university exactly because both exists and  padua-city got there 
way before the university and its faculties came into  being.
I think Mitford is thinking of specific contexts.
i. Jones went to Padua to study economics.
ii. Jones went to Padua.
iii. Jones graduated from Padua.
I THINK Mitford has in mind examples like (i): "to study economics" would  
seem to implicate that it's the university of Padua that is referred to,  
iv. Jones went to Padua University to study economics.

WOULD violate a Griceian maxim.
With Harvard it seems to work very similarly. 
The fact that I believe Harvard was originally referred to as Harvard  
COLLEGE (which should also be avoided) rather than UNIVERSITY may be the reason 
behind this.
Oxford is slightly different. 
Grice went to Corpus Christi.
You don't need to add "College", and even less, "Grice went to Corpus  
Christi College, Oxford University". That would violate Griceian maxims 
 and trigger all the wrong implicatures.
Mitford extend her approach to other places too.
"We're dining at Blenheim Palace" would be non-U as she calls it. The thing 
 _is_ a palace, not far from Oxford, but
"We're dining at Blenheim."
just does.

* Mitford is basing her research not so much on Grice but Ross, of  
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