[lit-ideas] Re: Mirembe and the need for Blackwater
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:25:38 -0230
Quoting Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
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> I'm amazed that you can remember every note Mirembe posted. I can't even
> remember every note I posted.
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RP does not require a prodigious memory to recall what he has recalled about
Mirembe. What is being recalled is not every single act of posting that a
person has performed, but the disposition of the person to post on particular
topics and not others. Dispositions are the most salient marks of a person's
character and personality, and they are consequently readily embedded within
memory.
I miss Mirembe's commentaries as well. I hope she found those Russian children's
books she was looking for.
Walter O
MUN
>
> And, sorry, but the predominant political position of those who post on
> politics -- here on Lit Ideas (and also on Theoria by the way) is Leftist.
> Thus, the "typical" Lit-idear is Leftist -- that is, the typical one
> posting. For all I know there could be 2000 conservatives who don't post .
> . . nahhhh.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> ------------Original Message------------
> From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, Sep-19-2007 1:25 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Mirembe and the need for Blackwater
>
> > By the way, is the US embassy spokeswoman, Miremebe Nantonga
> > referred to in the AFP article, the same Mirembe who used to be on
> > Lit Ideas and Phil-Lit and with whom I argued on more than one
> > occasion?
>
> Yes, she is the same person. Whether you 'argued' with her more than once
> I cannot say. It's surely possible that you and she disagreed over
> something
> a couple of times.
>
> > I can't recall what we argued about but could it have
> > been politics or the military?
>
> No. Mirembe has never on these lists discussed politics in the sense
> of taking sides, criticizing US policy, or attacking the sort of
> ideology you exemplify. She has never here discussed US policy from
> any political stance, and one could not have inferred from her posts
> where her political sympathies lay. That should be enough to answer
> what you say next:
>
> > Could [she] have been a typical Lit-Ideas/Phil-Lit member, i.e., a
> > Leftist? so, what is she doing in the hated State Department, and
> > Mike, what is she doing defending Blackwater? Did she succumb to
> > filthy lucre? Or is she operating out of principle?
>
> It's depressing to see you still assigning people ('the typical
> Lit-Ideas member, e.g.) to categories, the features of which have been
> pre-judged. I grant that this saves one the trouble of thinking: 'Oh,
> Smith is a member of lit-ideas, so he obviously believes in arming the
> jihadists, levitating the Pentagon, and promoting bimetallism.' One
> needn't pay any attention to what was actually said, once one knows
> who said it. 'The hated State Department'? Who among us has expressed
> hatred toward the State Department--the entire State Department?
> (Well, it certainly wasn't Mirembe, who throughout her membership on
> Phil_lit and its various reincarnations has worked for the State
> Department.)
>
> Mirembe, acting as a spokeswoman for the US Embassy in Baghdad, has
> not, in any of her remarks quoted in various newspapers, 'defended'
> Blackwater. Nor has she criticized it.
>
> You move, through a series of rhetorical questions, to a conclusion
> about someone's political and professional views; but the conclusion
> you seem to be trying to reach would only be supported if one accepted
> your own implicit answers to your own questions. Since your answers
> are false, the most you have done is to slander by innuendo, a person
> who was for years an ornament among the contributors to these lists.
>
> Robert Paul
> Reed College
>
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